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mjstraw
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| Blackjack wrote: | | TWC packet shaping in NYC makes me thinks Voip is far from ready to go mainstream yet. At least not til Docsis 3.0 / ADSL2+ / FiOS become more common. |
TWC packet shaping does not mean Voip is inherently flawed and not ready for mainstream.
Even with Docsis3.0 etc a slimy ISP can shape Voip traffic in such a way as to make it unusable (and of course they'd except their own Voip from the shaping).
I manage the traffic shaper for my employer, and if I wanted to I could make http performance suck. But it wouldn't mean http isn't ready to go mainstream.
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Blackjack
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Of course I understand that. But TWC's need to introduce packet shaping is what makes Voip somewhat unreliable. That's pretty much related to poor connections not ready to handle all the customers they have. Newer protocols and means of handling a high stream of data without cutting it down are required if Voip is to go mainstream. The infrastructure required to handle Voip consitently and reliably is just not here yet. That doesn't mean that we can't use it, but I don't think it can replace POTS or come anywhere near it just yet. |
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mjstraw
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By your definition then, Voip will _never_ be ready for mainstream.
With almost all applications, new protocols are developed, then adopted by more users which in turn clogs the "pipes" which ISPs are reluctant to enlarge ($$$) so they either let performance suffer or start shaping traffic.
Been that way for 20+ years and I don't see any end in sight.
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