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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Not subscribed yet...have questions! Reply with quote Back to top

OK - thinking of getting Vonage. Have no landline service at all so I'll have to get a number from scratch. Just need one line.

-Directory listings? I want to be unlisted in the directory and online, but I would like it to where my number comes up on caller ID when I call people. Is there a specific plan that does this? IOW if someone tries to 411 or lookup online, they won't find me, but if I call them, the number is there.

-How well do wireless phone jacks work? I can't really "hardwire" the existing copper wiring into the adapter, as I'm in an apartment building and would have to tear out walls and probably run phone wire somewhere outside the building. I also don't want to waste the 3 cordless phones I already have by having to buy a new phone with the additional handsets. As my internet connection is up in the loft, that's not a convenient place for a telephone, or at least my ONLY telephone! Lol

-I already have a router with my Verizon FIOS service, an Actiontec. What adapter/router from Vonage is best suited to that, and since all the Vonage adapters are also routers would that screw up my Vonage service or the internet connection on my 2 PC's??
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I can answer a couple of questions for you.

Your name and number won't be listed in any phone book, nor will it be available in any online searches.

When you call someone the call display may show a few different things. It won't show your name, but just your number. However that also depends on the phone you are calling. If the person adds your name and number to their directory on the phone it will come up as Joe Blow 555-1212.

I haven't used those wireless phone adapter as I have the 3 phone handset deal. you stating that your internet connection is in the loft area, so are you already running a wireless internet connection?

I have used the motorola 2142 model and it worked fine, but I went and bought my own wireless Linksys WRT54GP2, so I would have one less box in the mix. I am using cable internet so I have my cable modem and my Linksys/Vonage router. Depends on what you do online ie. gaming or p2p downloading, if you do just basic internet use than any of the products Vonage offers should be alright.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Not subscribed yet...have questions! Reply with quote Back to top

hairmetal wrote:
-Directory listings? I want to be unlisted in the directory and online, but I would like it to where my number comes up on caller ID when I call people. Is there a specific plan that does this? IOW if someone tries to 411 or lookup online, they won't find me, but if I call them, the number is there.


That's the way it works, but your NAME will not be sent along with the number. So people should be seeing your Vonage number on the CID, but the name will either be "Vonage holdings" or blank, or some other value.

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-How well do wireless phone jacks work? I can't really "hardwire" the existing copper wiring into the adapter, as I'm in an apartment building and would have to tear out walls and probably run phone wire somewhere outside the building. I also don't want to waste the 3 cordless phones I already have by having to buy a new phone with the additional handsets. As my internet connection is up in the loft, that's not a convenient place for a telephone, or at least my ONLY telephone! Lol


In most apartments I've been in, there is a jack that can be unplugged that isolates the apartment wiring from the apartment building itself. It's usually located in a closet or other out-of-the-way place. If you can find this, just unplug it and re-test the line in the apartment. Don't forget to plug it back in when you move out!

The wireless phone jacks work OK, but for the cost of a couple of them, you might be better off simply replacing your entire system with a single base that can support multiple remote handsets. The wireless jacks I've seen cost $50-75 each, and for about $100-125 you can get a nice, integrated phone system with 3-4 handsets. If you're looking at making two of your cordless bases remote, it's probably going to be cheaper to replace all of them with one centralized system. Then you have an integrated system that can probably share address book/speed dial around, operates on a single frequency with no chance of interference with each other, and only requires one phone jack.

Personally, I'm using the $125 (approx price when I bought it a few months ago) VTech mi6897, which has a speakerphone base with the charging cradle for one of the three handsets, and two remote handsets with their own cradles. I can add one more handset to the system if I want to. Or I could probably buy a new charging cradle for the handset on the base if I wanted to turn that into a remote one, but I use the base more often than I use any of the handsets, so having the one handset right there is handy for me.

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-I already have a router with my Verizon FIOS service, an Actiontec. What adapter/router from Vonage is best suited to that, and since all the Vonage adapters are also routers would that screw up my Vonage service or the internet connection on my 2 PC's??


Not at all, even if you end up with a Vonage router, nothing says you need to USE it as a router. Plug the WAN/Internet port from the Vonage adapter you get into any of the LAN ports on the Actiontac, plug a phone into the PHONE1 port of the Vonage adapter, and off you go.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

roscopco wrote:
I can answer a couple of questions for you.

Your name and number won't be listed in any phone book, nor will it be available in any online searches.

When you call someone the call display may show a few different things. It won't show your name, but just your number. However that also depends on the phone you are calling. If the person adds your name and number to their directory on the phone it will come up as Joe Blow 555-1212.

I haven't used those wireless phone adapter as I have the 3 phone handset deal. you stating that your internet connection is in the loft area, so are you already running a wireless internet connection?

I have used the motorola 2142 model and it worked fine, but I went and bought my own wireless Linksys WRT54GP2, so I would have one less box in the mix. I am using cable internet so I have my cable modem and my Linksys/Vonage router. Depends on what you do online ie. gaming or p2p downloading, if you do just basic internet use than any of the products Vonage offers should be alright.


My office is in the loft. My fiance and I each have a desk, hers is the "main" connection, plugged right into the Verizon FIOS modem/router combo, and my computer is on a wireless connection to that.

This Linksys WRT54GP2, is it a wireless phone adapter? Would it connect with my Verizon modem/router I have? Then I plug the phone into that?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

BTW - what about internet connection speed? I think I'm fast enough, my Speakeasy results are:

5102 download
1899 upload

According to what I've read here, Vonage seems to work OK at a 300 kbps upload speed and I'm well above that.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Speed is not really all that relevant to Vonage - you only need 90kbps at the highest quality voice setting.

What is FAR more important is latency and consistency. There is a speed test on this site that tests for Voip quality, and you can also test at www.testyourvoip.com - frankly I'd run both tests. If you want, post your results here and we can give you an idea of what to expect, but on the www.testyourvoip.com site - if you get anywhere near a 4.0 score or better, you are almost certainly going to LOVE Voip. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Another question -

I moved to Maryland 3 months ago, most of my family is back in Ohio. If I remember right, I can get a single line but still have a secondary number local to my family in Ohio, and have my Maryland number as the "master" is that correct?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hairmetal wrote:
This Linksys WRT54GP2, is it a wireless phone adapter? Would it connect with my Verizon modem/router I have? Then I plug the phone into that?


No, it's a router that has a phone port in the back of it. Since you already have a router that came with your FiOS, I'd stick to a simple Vonage device.

Vonage DOES offer a VTech integrated cordless phone system, but I'd generally suggest avoiding that. It is cheaper, but then if something goes wrong with the cordless phone part *OR* the Vonage Voip part, you end up having to replace the whole system.

You're far better off having a simple Vonage adapter (the retail stores sell a small, inexpensive device called the PAP2 which is compact and simple), or get whatever happens to be free after rebate and just use the WAN/Internet port and the Phone port,then get a decent cordless system or the wireless phone jacks you talked about earlier.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

NateHoy wrote:
Speed is not really all that relevant to Vonage - you only need 90kbps at the highest quality voice setting.

What is FAR more important is latency and consistency. There is a speed test on this site that tests for Voip quality, and you can also test at www.testyourvoip.com - frankly I'd run both tests. If you want, post your results here and we can give you an idea of what to expect, but on the www.testyourvoip.com site - if you get anywhere near a 4.0 score or better, you are almost certainly going to LOVE Voip. Smile


Scored a 4.0 on this site, and 4.2 on the testyourvoip.com site.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hairmetal wrote:

Scored a 4.0 on this site, and 4.2 on the testyourvoip.com site.


It doesn't get much better than that.

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