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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I am just wondering if Vonage can coexist successfully with bringing files down through Bit Torrent. I realize I probably have to throttle the Torrent client. My service I think is 3MB down, but I don't know what my REAL downstream speed is.

I am new to torrenting files, but I seem to recall that the client can tailor a time frame as to when it is bringing down the most data. I *think* that was the case.
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Kurty wrote:
I am just wondering if Vonage can coexist successfully with bringing files down through Bit Torrent. I realize I probably have to throttle the Torrent client. My service I think is 3MB down, but I don't know what my REAL downstream speed is.

I am new to torrenting files, but I seem to recall that the client can tailor a time frame as to when it is bringing down the most data. I *think* that was the case.


Downloading will be a problem. QoS only handles uploading. Most Torrent clients can throttle the download speed. I don't know whether they can do that on a timed basis, but you can always test your download bandwidth and restrict your torrent client to reserve a percentage of your bandwidth for Vonage and "everything else". Vonage really only needs about 90kbps, which isn't a whole lot. Just be sure you reserve enough for Vonage *and* other things you may be doing.

Vonage is pretty fault-tolerant. I find that with most HTTP or FTP downloads, it doesn't affect the Vonage connection all that much. Torrent, on the other hand, is far more abusive to the network overall (due to the way it makes its connections), and unless it is properly throttled it will mess things up for you.

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I have mine setup - cable modem ->Wireless router->VT2142.
It works just fine that way.


I also have my VT2542 behind the router. I have tried putting my router behind the VT2542 and think I would like to, but lose my DNS (reverts to the VT2542's router IP, not the cable providers DNS IP).

Any suggestions

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ed56 wrote:
kdf55 wrote:
I have mine setup - cable modem ->Wireless router->VT2142.
It works just fine that way.


I also have my VT2542 behind the router. I have tried putting my router behind the VT2542 and think I would like to, but lose my DNS (reverts to the VT2542's router IP, not the cable providers DNS IP).

Any suggestions


Oooops, meant to say VT2142

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kdf55 wrote:
I have mine setup - cable modem ->Wireless router->VT2142.
It works just fine that way.


I also have my VT2542 behind the router. I have tried putting my router behind the VT2542 and think I would like to, but lose my DNS (reverts to the VT2542's router IP, not the cable providers DNS IP).

Any suggestions


Some options:

http://vonage.nmhoy.net/tworouters.html

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

NateHoy wrote:
ed56 wrote:
kdf55 wrote:
I have mine setup - cable modem ->Wireless router->VT2142.
It works just fine that way.


I also have my VT2542 behind the router. I have tried putting my router behind the VT2542 and think I would like to, but lose my DNS (reverts to the VT2542's router IP, not the cable providers DNS IP).

Any suggestions


Some options:

http://vonage.nmhoy.net/tworouters.html


Thanks for the link. I currently have my Vonage set up per Option 1: Single LAN. I would assume that putting the Vonage router first would improve performance, but the link you sent says otherwise. My Linksys BEFSR41 is supposedly full duplex but I still believe it is not that good (older technology).

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ed56 wrote:
Thanks for the link. I currently have my Vonage set up per Option 1: Single LAN. I would assume that putting the Vonage router first would improve performance, but the link you sent says otherwise. My Linksys BEFSR41 is supposedly full duplex but I still believe it is not that good (older technology).


Actually, you may want to just try taking the BEFSR41 out entirely, if you can. No need for double-routing if it isn't adding anything to your network. My general recommendation is to put the strongest router "out front". The BEFSR41 isn't a very strong router, so I think the Vonage VT would probably serve you better.

But, if you need the LAN ports, you can also rewire the BEFSR41 as a switch (turn off the BEFSR41's DHCP, then run a cable from a Vonage router LAN port to a LAN port on the BEFSR41 - the other three LAN ports on the BEFSR41 will then become part of the Vonage router's network, and there's no need to plug ANYTHING into the WAN/Internet port on the BEFSR41).

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NateHoy wrote:
ed56 wrote:
Thanks for the link. I currently have my Vonage set up per Option 1: Single LAN. I would assume that putting the Vonage router first would improve performance, but the link you sent says otherwise. My Linksys BEFSR41 is supposedly full duplex but I still believe it is not that good (older technology).


Actually, you may want to just try taking the BEFSR41 out entirely, if you can. No need for double-routing if it isn't adding anything to your network. My general recommendation is to put the strongest router "out front". The BEFSR41 isn't a very strong router, so I think the Vonage VT would probably serve you better.

But, if you need the LAN ports, you can also rewire the BEFSR41 as a switch (turn off the BEFSR41's DHCP, then run a cable from a Vonage router LAN port to a LAN port on the BEFSR41 - the other three LAN ports on the BEFSR41 will then become part of the Vonage router's network, and there's no need to plug ANYTHING into the WAN/Internet port on the BEFSR41).


THANKS! I think that is what I am look for. The BEFSR41 connects to a nearby computer then then uplinks to a hub, which supplies the house (four hardwired ports) one of which goes to a swtich with a PC, a server and a wireless access point.

I do have some port fowarding settings on the BEFSR41 for timbuktu and Real VNC, but could set those up on the the VT2142 I suppose.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ed56 wrote:

I do have some port fowarding settings on the BEFSR41 for timbuktu and Real VNC, but could set those up on the the VT2142 I suppose.


Or you could configure the VT2142 as per option three of the page, and keep your settings on the BEFSR41. If that works for you, then there's no need to change it. If it doesn't, you can try the VT out front and the BEFSR41 as a dumb switch and see if that works better.

The BEFSR41 is already fully configured, so setting the VT up as per option three is going to save you time, if it works. You can also give it a try for a week each way, then settle on whichever one works best for you (or whichever one you happen to do last, if they both work well) (grin).

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Or you could configure the VT2142 as per option three of the page, and keep your settings on the BEFSR41.


Option three won't wok as my Vonage router only has one LAN port.

Reconfiguring the VT2142 may be best. Will have to read the VT2142 manual first Sad

Thanks for all the help. Vonage works pretty well, but I periodically do get some echoing and other annoyances, which I suspect is my old router.

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