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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Remove the WRT54GX2 and now connect your Vonage device and run the test and post your results.

I seriously doubt that the packet loss you're experiencing is due to your encrytption or firewall settings with the Linksys WRT54GX2. Look at NateHoy's last post and his suggestions. If none of those work, if you can, try connecting your WRT54GX2 to someone you know that has a cable or dsl connection. Run the test with and without the WRT54GX2 and see if you get the same type of packet loss with their connection when the WRT54GX2 is connected. If you do, the router may just be defective or can't handle the T1 bandwidth.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Do you mean connect the Vonage router to the T1 socket and connect my laptop to the Vonage router and run the test?

would it work if I made the Vonage router as the primary router and connect the linksys router to the Vonage router and then the laptops to the linksys router? Please advise.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, give it a try with just your Vonage router and see what your results are. Using the Vonage router as the primary may work depending on your needs. As a rule though, Vonage routers are not very robust routers and work better as just phone adapters. But if it works and the test results are good, you could possibly use the Linksys as just an access point.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ardent_guy wrote:
Do you mean connect the Vonage router to the T1 socket and connect my laptop to the Vonage router and run the test?.

Yes.

ardent_guy wrote:
would it work if I made the Vonage router as the primary router and connect the linksys router to the Vonage router and then the laptops to the linksys router? Please advise.

You could also try that.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I just tried connecting the Vonage router to the T1 socket and the linksys router to the Vonage router and then the laptops to the linksys....It didnt work, as the Vonage router lights were not stable and were flashing all the time...

Once I reconnected the Vonage to the linksys and the latter to the T1 socket, the Vonage lights were stable and I could hear a dial tone...

I was on chat with a Linksys rep. and she told me to call Motorola (vonage router manufacturer) to ask them to configure the Vonage router as the primary router...would that work as i couldnt do it myself...

tglea, as you say that Vonage routers are good for phone and not for Internet, whats the best way to do this?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Did you try connecting "only" the Vonage router to the T1 socket and then run the speed test ? If you didn't, give it a try. I'd like to see if you experience the packet loss you were seeing with the WRT54GX2.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

How do I run the speed test with just the Vonage router connected to the T1 socket? i dont have internet once I do that....

are you saying I should connect my laptop to the Vonage router and the Vonage router to the T1 connection? if so, the lights still flash and are not stable meaning its not working properly...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ardent_guy wrote:
How do I run the speed test with just the Vonage router connected to the T1 socket? i dont have internet once I do that....

are you saying I should connect my laptop to the Vonage router and the Vonage router to the T1 connection? if so, the lights still flash and are not stable meaning its not working properly...


Yes, connect your laptop by ethernet to the VT2142 connected to the T1. Give it enough time to see if the lights will stop flashing and remain constant. If the lights continue to flash, try resetting the device. The reset button is on the back of the VT2142...take a pointed device and press and hold for 30 seconds.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: Test results with Linksys Router. Reply with quote Back to top

ardent_guy wrote:
Thanks a lot...these are the results with the Linksys router between the T1 line and the laptops. I spoke to my roomate who installed the router and he said that the data loss was obvious due to 64bit encryption and firewall settings; he says it would compromise the security to reduce the encryption rate to 32bits or lower...

I've always got eally fast internet...it shows as T2 instead....whats the best way to accomodate the Vonage router/reduce data loss and also maintain the same security for the router/network.

First of all, with speeds in excess of 9 Mbps, you are NOT on a T1. You would have to bond 6 T1's to get that kind of speed, and it's not very cost effective to do that. More likely you're on some kind of metro (or campus... are you in college?) ethernet.

As for encryption.... encryption between where and where? What 2 points?

As for 64 bit encryption, it's better than nothing but the security is marginal at best. And we're talking about the public internet here, so even if you encrypt between your router (?) and its peer, traffic becomes UNencrypted at that point. In other words, encrypting that traffic serves no other purpose than slowing down a would-be traffic sniffer on your local segment.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Test results with Linksys Router. Reply with quote Back to top

rebus wrote:

As for encryption.... encryption between where and where? What 2 points?

As for 64 bit encryption, it's better than nothing but the security is marginal at best. And we're talking about the public internet here, so even if you encrypt between your router (?) and its peer, traffic becomes UNencrypted at that point. In other words, encrypting that traffic serves no other purpose than slowing down a would-be traffic sniffer on your local segment.


I gotta be honest, that one completely mystified me as well. The statement about "64 bit encryption" makes absolutely no sense on any level. First, it's not secure anyway, second, I don't know how it would apply in terms of a router, and third, it's being compared to 32 bit encryption, which isn't employed ANYWHERE any more as far as I know...

The data loss is almost certainly not due to any encryption, at least nothing the router is introducing. If the router is set up as a VPN client or something, it's only encrypting to the Internet pipe, at which point it can't be encrypted. So unless you are trying to hide your activities from others on the local segment (and I'd seriously question why you want to do that), I doubt there's any real encryption going on at all.

I'd see about putting the Vonage router right at the "T1" connection, which I'm beginning to suspect is not a "T1" but some sort of campus or other large-pipe connection. At which point, VPN connection to the Internet makes sense, but not at 64 bits, that's just too easy to break. Plus, if properly configured, even 128 bit encryption is not going to cause that sort of data loss.

Anyway, you'll need to look at the configuration of your current router. There are probably some settings in it that need to be copied over to the Vonage router (username, password, etc if this is a PPPOE connection, for example).

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