UTSTARCOM F1000 or F3000..??? I Nedd Help..

Posts: 56 · Full Forum Member Joined: Oct 25, 2006 Posts: 56

Good day iam a Vonage custumer..already i have the LINKSYS PAP phone adapter,setup in my house..

iam planning on goin overseas in a couple of days, and i would like to know wich is better the F1000 or the F3000.. i would also like to know what can the F3000 do that the F1000 cant do..

Will the F3000 work with Vonage, because i called Vonage today and they told me that the it will not work.. that the only product that will work is the F1000... ive heard some people say it works.. but i dont know why Vonage says the F3000 will not work with them.. maybe they want us to buy the F1000 that they have in stock or something..

i need to know what can F3000 do that the F1000 cant do..need to know the features ect..

wich can last longer.. wich has better signal.. wich has better volume..wich finds WIFI hotspots faster.. ect

thank you

Posts: 328 · Vonage Forum Evangelist Joined: Dec 13, 2005 Posts: 328

Which is "better" depends on what you want to do. The F3000 is a clamshell style phone with a color display and polyphonic ringer. The F1000 is a bar type basic phone with a black and white display and a very basic ringer. The WiFi and DSP set of the F3000 and F1000G (both sold retail) are the same, so performance will be close to the same, with the exception that the F1000 battery life may be longer since it has a bigger battery and smaller display. If you just want a basic phone, the F1000 is a good choice.

The next question is how you will use the phone with Vonage. The F1000G and F3000 are both available via retail, but these are NOT Vonage branded. This means that they will work with a Vonage soft phone account, but NOT with a Vonage primary account.

The alternative, which is the only WiFi phone that works with a Vonage primary account is the F1000 (not the F1000G), with Vonage branding. This is not available anywhere other than from Vonage directly - they never put it into retail outlets. I am not sure of the Vonage policies on selling a Vonage brnaded F1000 without a new account (they once did but seemingly now don't - you'll need to check with Vonage if you want one).

I personally travel with an F3000 as well as a Netgear WGR101 travel router - for hotels that have LAN connections but no WiFi. The set up works very well.

Posts: 56 · Full Forum Member Joined: Oct 25, 2006 Posts: 56

Ok so if i want to stay with my same Vonage primary line.. i would have to buy the phone from vonage...? is that correct..this will work with my primary account..

thanks..i did not know that...

howiewifi wrote:

Which is "better" depends on what you want to do. The F3000 is a clamshell style phone with a color display and polyphonic ringer. The F1000 is a bar type basic phone with a black and white display and a very basic ringer. The WiFi and DSP set of the F3000 and F1000G (both sold retail) are the same, so performance will be close to the same, with the exception that the F1000 battery life may be longer since it has a bigger battery and smaller display. If you just want a basic phone, the F1000 is a good choice.

The next question is how you will use the phone with Vonage. The F1000G and F3000 are both available via retail, but these are NOT Vonage branded. This means that they will work with a Vonage soft phone account, but NOT with a Vonage primary account.

The alternative, which is the only WiFi phone that works with a Vonage primary account is the F1000 (not the F1000G), with Vonage branding. This is not available anywhere other than from Vonage directly - they never put it into retail outlets. I am not sure of the Vonage policies on selling a Vonage brnaded F1000 without a new account (they once did but seemingly now don't - you'll need to check with Vonage if you want one).

I personally travel with an F3000 as well as a Netgear WGR101 travel router - for hotels that have LAN connections but no WiFi. The set up works very well.

Posts: 328 · Vonage Forum Evangelist Joined: Dec 13, 2005 Posts: 328

That is correct. Only the Vonage branded F1000, available only direct from Vonage, will work with your existing (or new) primary account.

F1000G and F3000 phones are available in the market as unlocked "generic" phones that work with "any" SIP provider, including the Voange soft phone accounts where Vonage provides you with the information that you need to set it up.

Posts: 56 · Full Forum Member Joined: Oct 25, 2006 Posts: 56

ok thanks for the information.............it was really helpfull..

bye and thank you

howiewifi wrote:

That is correct. Only the Vonage branded F1000, available only direct from Vonage, will work with your existing (or new) primary account.

F1000G and F3000 phones are available in the market as unlocked "generic" phones that work with "any" SIP provider, including the Voange soft phone accounts where Vonage provides you with the information that you need to set it up.

Posts: 3 · New Forum Member Joined: Mar 25, 2005 Posts: 3

Thanks much for the useful info... I had the exact same questions. One more I have... I read some dated (e.g. Endgadget in 2005) reviews of the F1000 and they had reviewed a beta. Is the reconditioned F1000 available from Vonage.com providing the same quality as that review noted, or has it improved, e.g. is the sound quality better, does it hook up to APs, better... in other words have any software improvements made this phone work better? I have an old Panasonic 900Mhz cordless plugged into a wired Vonage network and it would be nice to take my number around to a few limited places but I really don't want to lose the quality that I have at home just to take my phone with me sometimes.

Posts: 328 · Vonage Forum Evangelist Joined: Dec 13, 2005 Posts: 328

The Enadget review from for a prototype phone that the got in early 2005. Vonage introduced their custom version of the F1000 near the end of 2005. It had improved considerably in that time. On the other hand, the F1000 will not be as good as the combination of wired TA and 900MHz cordless phone, nor would it match a wired phone on a TA. It is OK, but it is not perfect, mostly because WiFi is not perfect.

Given that, if you have a phone and what to use it to take your number with you, you can switch accounts between the F1000 and your existing TA when you go out. While not as good as a wired TA, it is a lot better than any TA that is at home while you are not.