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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:59 am    Post subject: Combining Existing Landline and VOIP in the same house ... Reply with quote Back to top

I am looking at having the best of both worlds. I wish to keep my existing NTL landline into my house with my existing phone number, but I also want to use cheap calls via Voip. So how do I do this? I connect both my existing wiring loop of phones into the Voip telephone adapter, so that all ym phones can be used as Voip phones via my router and provider of choice.... so now here comes the tricky part. How do I tell my Voip adapter that I still want to recieve incoming calls via my existing line, but make outgoing calls via my Voip account? Is it via something called 'calling plan' or is there another trick I'm missing altogher? Thanks...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Well I have the perfect box to do what you want to do, unfortunately it's been discontinued. It's the AT&T, now Lucent, model 24080 two-line switch. Here's a picture of it:

AT&T two-line switch

The input jack is a standard two line modular jack (you'd need an adapter to break that out to connect one line to your Vonage adapter, and the second line to your landline). The output jack is a single line modular jack; you'd plug your phone (or cordless phone base station, or even your whole house wiring) into that jack.

A call coming into the house on either line causes the connected phone to ring. When you make an outgoing call, the line that is used for the outgoing is selected by which line you've got the slide switch set to. I have my switch set to my Vonage line, so incoming calls to either Vonage or my landline ring my phones, and when I call out, it goes out via Vonage.

You may be able to find one used on Ebay; search for either AT&T 24080 or Lucent 24080, or maybe Lucent Technologies 24080. I found one site that claimed to have some left over for sale new, but there was something odd about the way that site kept causing my router login page to pop up every time I accessed it, so I steered clear of entering it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I really wish Vonage would support the Grandstream HandyTone 386 analog telephone adapter.

Two FXS ports, separate Voip number on each (ie voice/fax lines)

PSTN connection for "pass-thru" and "lifeline". FXS port 1 can enter a dialing prefix (defaults to *00) and the call is routed out thru the PSTN. When power goes out, PSTN is "hardwired" thru to FXS port 1 and calls go out over the PSTN without a prefix.

Incoming calls on either PSTN or Voip number associated with FXS port 1 cause FXS port 1 to ring.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I don't know about the little magic boxes that the previous posts described but I do have a little suggestion. If you still have live POTS service running throughout your house and to all of your existing phone jacks, it would not be wise to plug your Vonage adapter into one of those jacks to "feed" the rest of your house. Your POTS line carries voltage on it and that would most likely damage your Vonage adapter. The good news is you do have options depending on exactly what you want to accomplish. Here is what I would do. I would forward my POTS number to my Vonage number to start. Next, provided your house is fairly new and the phone wiring was run with the "home run" method, I would disconnect the incoming line from the POTS and connect it with one jack in the house only. This way you still can make outgoing calls with your POTS line at one location in your house if your internet/Vonage goes down. Finally plug your Vonage adapter into an existing phone jack to "feed" the rest of the house(again only after you have disconnected the POTS line). If you have any knowledge of communications wiring and a couple tools you can pick up at Home Depot, this is all fairly easy to do. If not, you could hire someone to make the wiring changes for you.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I agree completely. The answer to "How do I tell my Voip adapter that I still want to recieve incoming calls via my existing line" is that you don't tell the adapter anything, because it's not equipped to work directly with a land line like that.

The various gadgets and workarounds discussed are all good. Another option is to take advantage of the fact that most home wiring is set up to handle at least two lines. One can be the Vonage line and the other can be the existing land line. 2-line phones can be used throughout the house as desired, or single line phones can be plugged into any jack using adapters to access whichever line is desired for that phone.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Steve's scenario is pretty much how I have things set up right now.

"downgraded" verizon landline to cheapest, "pay for every outgoing call" plan, stripped off long-distance, removed all features, added "call forwarding variable".

Landline forwarded to Vonage number. Vonage "net unavailability" set to forward to my cell phone.

Vonage is line1 and landline is line2 on all jacks. I have one phoneline-powered phone plugged into line2. It gives a brief ring as each incoming call is transferred.

Since call forward "busy/noanswer" is about half the price of variable, I'm planning to switch to that and wire up a plug with pins 2 and 5 (line2) jumpered and plug it into a jack so the landline is always off-hook (ie busy). Just remove the plug to use the landline.

If I win the lottery :-) I'd like to install a small "key system" with two lines (vonage and landline) and 8 stations. Remove forwarding on the landline. When a call comes in on either line, all stations ring, the one that picks up gets the call. All other stations are available for outgoing calls or incoming on the other lin.

The key system would also be set to make outgoing on Vonage unless it's in use - in which case it would use the landline. Or I may require a special code be entered to access the landline for outgoing.

In any event, the major consideration in how you set things up is the "wife approval factor" :-)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: found a solution Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for all your comments everybody. I have now found a solution. It's basically a soft-switch that does what the magic box answer was doing, except you can be more prescriptive with it. I plug my pstn line, my internal phone network, my router into this box, and in the settings I divert the pstn incoming to the phone network, and block the outgoing. I then divert the Voip incoming to the pstn and ensure that all outgoing traffic is via Voip. Here it is ...GW1210

http://www.vanaccess.com/show.asp?productid=35&catalogid=27
1 x FXO/PSTN line port
1 x FXS/Telephone port
1 x Wan for broadband/VOIP port
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That reference is for a GW0220 which doesn't do what you describe.

I can't find a GW1210 on their site

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You should never have a direct short between the two wires on a land line phone line. The phone company's switch will interpret it as a direct short and will send out a technician to "repair" it. Depending upon the mood and the company this may result in a service call fee that you are responsible for. Sad If someone with more technical information can chime in with the resister size, you can take a resister and put between the two wires to create the off hook condition. Probably what would be easier is to take an old rotary dial telephone (500) and just take the receiver off the hook. This will give you the off hook condition, the phone company thinks that a phone is off hook (no short exists) and yet to use the phone, you can just hang it up, wait, and then pick it up to use. Lol
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I don't think the phone company will go for a permanent off hook condition even if it isn't seen as a direct short. Even if they don't send a repairman, they'll probably terminate service to the line after a period of time.

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