Combining Existing Landline and VOIP in the same house ...

Posts: 41 · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:12 am Post subject:

Excellent point. Embarassed

Posts: 9 · New Forum Member Joined: Apr 10, 2007 Posts: 9

I'm not really looking for any digging or rewiring or adjusting with different phones or adapters. I'm just looking for a bridge that will route calls to and from the same phones depending on incoming or outgoing calls.

GW0210
Details here http://www.vanaccess.com/show.asp?productid=74&catalogid=27
1 x Modem/PSTN port
1 x FXS/Telephone port
1 x Wan for broadband/VOIP port
Cost = 105.63 Euro + VAT & Delivery

GW1210
It is the same as this one except it only has 1 Wan port
http://www.vanaccess.com/show.asp?productid=35&catalogid=27
1 x FXO/PSTN line port
1 x FXS/Telephone port
1 x Wan for broadband/VOIP port

GW 0221
Details here http://www.vanaccess.com/show.asp?productid=37&catalogid=27
1 x FXO/PSTN line port
1 x FXS/Telephone port
1 x Lan
1 x Wan for broadband/VOIP port

Posts: 187 · Vonage Forum Master Joined: Feb 14, 2007 Posts: 187

[quote="Steve48"]I don't think the phone company will go for a permanent off hook condition even if it isn't seen as a direct short. Even if they don't send a repairman, they'll probably terminate service to the line after a period of time.[/quote]

For a good intro to the situation, see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_signal

Mark

Posts: 187 · Vonage Forum Master Joined: Feb 14, 2007 Posts: 187

[quote="petercfoy"]I'm not really looking for any digging or rewiring or adjusting with different phones or adapters. I'm just looking for a bridge that will route calls to and from the same phones depending on incoming or outgoing calls.[/quote]

None of the referenced devices will do what you want. They are all basically the same type of devices as the Grandstream HandyTone series.

[quote="petercfoy"]GW0210
Details here http://www.vanaccess.com/show.asp?productid=74&catalogid=27
1 x Modem/PSTN port
1 x FXS/Telephone port
1 x Wan for broadband/VOIP port
Cost = 105.63 Euro + VAT & Delivery[/quote]

Performs the VoIP<->Analog phone "adapter" function just like the D-link VTA. Can't be used with Verizon.

[quote="petercfoy"]GW1210
It is the same as this one except it only has 1 Wan port
http://www.vanaccess.com/show.asp?productid=35&catalogid=27
1 x FXO/PSTN line port
1 x FXS/Telephone port
1 x Wan for broadband/VOIP port[/quote]

The above link takes me to info on the GW0220 which is the GW0210 with the addition of NAT router functions. Can't be used with verizon for the same reason as the GW0210

[quote="petercfoy"]GW 0221
Details here http://www.vanaccess.com/show.asp?productid=37&catalogid=27
1 x FXO/PSTN line port
1 x FXS/Telephone port
1 x Lan
1 x Wan for broadband/VOIP port[/quote]

This model seems to be a GW0220 on steroids, performs the same basic functions and has the same Vonage unusability as the others.

Mark

Posts: 41 · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:05 am Post subject:

To go back to the original post, I think a simple panasonic switch would work the best for you. They had a 308 hybrid switch that will give you three lines and eight telephones. You will need to run telephone wire from the KSU (Key Service Unit) to each telephone, but this will allow all your incoming calls to come in on your landline (line 2) but when you call out you can use line 1 which is your Vonage line. This will give you the best of both worlds. Cost is probably less than $1000 but you will need a dedicated telephone line to each telephone. You can use single line sets for your extensions, but you will need a panasonic key phone for the main extension to do the programming.
Just food for thought.

Posts: 9 · New Forum Member Joined: Apr 10, 2007 Posts: 9

... thanks, I'm not aware of the Grandstream HandyTone, but I beg to differ with your comment about they won't allow me to achieve my goal, they each have a web interface you can access with your browser and configure to your needs. They all allow me to set the PSTN line to receive calls and set the Wan/Lan line to route outgoing calls over VOIP...

here's a manual ...

http://www.vanaccess.com/news/news_images/2007131_67_User%20Manual%20-%20GW0220.pdf

Posts: 187 · Vonage Forum Master Joined: Feb 14, 2007 Posts: 187

The device's "call routing" (using the dial-peer config) capabilities are not in question.

The problem is that the device also functions as a Voip Telephone Adapter, just like the D-Link VTA and other units that Vonage sells. Vonage will not activate one of these units on their service.

If you have the time/money to invest, go ahead an get one. Let us know how it works. I'd love to be proven wrong, but don't give it a very high probability.

Mark

Posts: 4 · New Forum Member Joined: May 22, 2007 Posts: 4

Hello all,

My name is Henry from VanAccess. If you have any questions regarding our products, feel free to PM me or email us at sales@vanaccess.com or support@vanaccess.com.

Thanks,
Henry

Posts: 9 · New Forum Member Joined: Apr 10, 2007 Posts: 9

Just to let you know I got the product I was talking about, and it does work, exaclty as I wanted. I have combined my PSTN with my router, and using voxalot's service have calling plans set up dependant on the number dialled by my regular pstn handset. These then get routed by least cost to different Voip providers. All incoming traffic whether Voip or pstn comes through my pstn handsets wherever in my house circuit. I would highly reccommend the vanaccess product if that's what you're after. The only difficulty is the setup screen is all abbreviated, so you either need to know what you're looking for, or have the manual beside you when you configure it..... Lol

Posts: 187 · Vonage Forum Master Joined: Feb 14, 2007 Posts: 187

So how does Vonage enter into the picture?

It would appear that Voxalot is the Voip provider that your adapter registers with. And the only reference Voxalot makes to Vonage is that they can work with a SmartPhone account. Nothing about hardware adapters.

Now that you've thrown Voxalot into the mix, it substantiates my earlier position that the vanaccess products are similar to Grandstream HTs. They can't be used directly with Vonage. But voxalot is a different animal.

Mark