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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: 1970's home, NID has nothing to unplug? Reply with quote Back to top

I don't know how to post a picture, I have one to show what I'm talking about...

I went outside to follow the directions for unplugging my NID, and it doesn't look like any diagrams I've seen and there's nothing that looks like a phone connector to unplug. I don't know how to disconnect it so I can use my inside phone jacks to spread my Vonage throughout the house.

There's a white coated line that has red, green, black and yellow coming out of it (the phone line obviously!) Each individual wire has a round connector (looks like a fish eye) and then another inch or so of wire sticking out and individually connecting to the box. Reminds me of how you connect speaker wire to your stereo. These connectors (there are 2) say T R and below that AMP. The red and green wires are connected to one....the yellow and black are connected to the other.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Typically, all you would need to do here is disconnect the red and green wires from the screw terminals and insulate the ends of each and you would be ready to go.

Is your land line still up and running? If so, that makes things a lot surer. Just verify that a phone in your house is still working on that line. Do what I said above and check to see that the phone has gone dead. If it has, all is well.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject: Now I can't get my phone jacks to work..... Reply with quote Back to top

I disconnected the red and green, came back inside and there was no more dial tone. SUCCESS!

I had a phone plugged into the Phone 1 port- and it worked, so I unplugged it and plugged a cord into Phone 1 port and then into a phone jack, but none of my phones are working. Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Before you disconnect the red and the green, were all the phone jacks in your home working with the land line? When you plug the Vonage box into the wall jack, does the phone light start flashing, stay on steady, or go out?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

OK...So I dragged a cord through the house and plugged the line into a different phone jack, and the phones I connect to my jacks now work.

So the main jack I was hoping to use is just not working for some reason, or somehow not connected to the rest of the lines? It was put in about 4 years ago by the phone company, but I didn't think that would make a difference.

Anyway, good to know my adapter and jacks work (except the one), so for now we'll just have one phone for the time being, plugged directly into the Vonage adapter, and make due until I can run a line under the house.
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Well done. At this point I would recommend that you open that one box that isn't working and do a good visual inspection on it. Is the wiring the same as for the other jacks? If it was installed after the others, it may have been set up for a second phone line. In that case, the yellow/black and red/green pairs may be reversed.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It was set up for a 2nd line. I think I'll buy a single-line jack and replace it....making sure the wiring matches up with the rest of our single-jacks as reference!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Good, we understand what happened. However, a standard RJ11 is a two line jack, even if you don't have two lines. An RJ45 is a 4 line data jack. As far as I know, there's no such thing as a single line jack for telephones (though you could leave the extra contacts out). Fixing the one you have should be as simple as looking carefully at the jacks that are working then re-wiring the one with the problem exactly the way the others are (color-wise).

Another option would be to go back to the NIU. Disconnect the yellow and black wires from the terminal block the way you did the red and green. Connect the yellow to the red and the black to the green and you should be good to go- as long as you don't want a second line in the house. (I prefer re-wiring the problem jack.)

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