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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: A bit confused about Port Forwarding, configuration, etc... Reply with quote Back to top

I have a Linksys WRT55AG as my main router. I have my Vonage Linksys RT31P2 chained into that router. I went to the admin in the RT31P2 and changed it to static address, and made it 192.168.1.101. I then went to my WRT55AG and changed the DHCP on there to only give out in ranges 102 -150. OK, everything is working. I now wanted to configure Port Forwarding to improve things a bit, but I'm a bit confused. On the Vonage page it talks about incoming and outgoing. I am not sure how to correctly configure this on the WRT55AG. Do all the ports need to point to the 192.168.1.101? Of course the RT31P2 is using the 192.168.15.* subnet.
Could someone clarify this for me? Give me examples using my information and I'll get it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You are correct in that you need to open up all the ports required for your rt31p2 at the ip address 192.168.1.101.

If you forward the ports, it will automatically take care of the incoming and outgoing. Normally the port forwarding is needed for incoming since the router might consider the rapid data as an attack or not know which ip address to send the data.

By changing the ip address on your rt31p2, you are no in the 192.168.1.xxx subnet not the default 192.168.15.xxx.

The Vonage help section says to forward the following ports:

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DNS: Port 53 UDP (Domain Name Server - for resolving server IP addresses)

TFTP: Port 69 UDP (for profile upgrades/downgrades)

HTTP: Port 80 UDP (for firmware upgrades/downgrades)

NTP: Port 123 UDP (Network Time Protocol - so the device can sync to the proper time for Caller ID)

SIP: Port 5061 UDP is used for older Vonage devices (devices provisioned before 2005) Also, BSP Proxy Groups 1-8, and a.voncp.com communicate on port 5061.

The following ports are needed for INCOMING and OUTGOING Internet communications from and to Vonage devices and servers.

RTP (Voice) Traffic: Ports 10000-20000 UDP. When a call is made, a random port between 10000 and 20000 is used for RTP (Voice) traffic. If any of these ports are blocked, you may experience one way or no audio


So by way of example, I would go the applications/gaming tab and enter in the following:

start port = 10000
end port = 20000
protocol = select udp
ipaddress = 192.168.1.101

it should then forward all ports coming in through ports 10000 to 20000 to your rt31p2.

Your firewall might also cause some issues. If the port forwarding works, great. If it still is a bit choppy, consider disabling the firewall and see if that helps.

hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

nice explanation mundy! folks like you make this forum useful!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

thanks eliteraven. it's comments like yours that make it all worthwhile.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

To clarify a bit. On most consumer-grade routers, port forwarding relates to incomming packets.

The dns, tftp, http, ntp and sip ports only need "open" (ie not blocked) for outbound traffic from your adapter. Port forwarding generally doesn't enter into the picture.

The 10000-20000 range could possibly benefit from port forwarding to your adapter. But it's a matter of working or not working. It's not something that will help a poor connection.

My VTA sits behind a Netgear FVS318 which supposedly has a stateful-pack-inspection (SPI) firewall. I have not had to do any forwarding of the 10000-20000 ports.

My guess is that port forwarding is not required at all for "modern" routers. Or perhaps not required with "modern" phone adapters that are designed to use STUN when one or both ends of calls are behind nat gateways.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

mjstraw -

Quite true. Most routers do not require any port forwarding or DMZ setup of any kind for Vonage. Only routers that can actually block ports need to have the ports set to Open (or have them forwarded appropriately if that is preferred, but it is not necessary).

Your Vonage adapter actually sends a signal outbound every minute or so, and any signal from the Vonage service is actually a response to that signal, not an unsolicited connection from the Internet. So your Vonage adapter is keeping the connection open by repeatedly requesting things from the Vonage server, and when you get a call the Vonage server sends a response. As long as your router is set to keep idle connections open for more than a minute or two, you should be all set.

A few routers may drop idled connections faster than that, and of course those routers would need to have the ports permanently forwarded.

There are some routers that have a function that is sometimes called "flood protection". I don't know if there is an industry-standard term for this, but the general purpose is to look for repeated connections or excessive bandwidth on a given port and forcibly close (or at least slow down) the port if they are detected. Obviously, this could have disastrous implications for your Vonage call.

For those routers, it is quite possible that forwarding the port manually, rather than leaving it open, will circumvent this protection and allow Vonage the bandwidth it needs without artificially adding latency.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks guys.
When I changed to obtaining a static IP for the Vonage router though, that puts the router itself on the 1.101 subnet, but any connections that are attached to that router (like when I'm checking the configuration) would still get the 15.* address, correct?

It sounds like my configuration is fine. I did this to see if my quality would improve. Before I did this change I just left everything dynamic. I've had it for about a year, but only just recently did I start getting dropouts in audio. I made these changes to see if it improved things. So far it hasn't.
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