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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: I need help creating my network, please advise what router! Reply with quote Back to top

Hello everyone. I currently subscribe to Vonage and own a Vtech Cordless Voip Phone (IP 8100-1) with 2 handsets. So far I've had the Vonage service for almost 1 yr and am very pleased with it. However, I now want to network a 2nd computer to our home, and (wanting to go wireless) I was told by Vonage customer support that I should buy a Linksys Wireless Broadband Router. This will be the first time I've ever attempted to hookup a network, so I am looking for details in order to do it right. Vonage customer support told me once I buy the router, I needed to call them up and give them the router's MAC # (before I hook up the lines), that way they'll set it up so the Vonage phone will work as soon as I hook it up to the router. Can someone please tell me if they are using their Vonage phone on a wireless network? If so, can you please tell me, do you experience more sound drops after going wireless? Which router would you recommend I get? Like I said, this will be a first time experience for me, so any help or feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

could you please post the model of your devices, your current network setup
and tell me also which is your active Vonage device.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: I need a router Reply with quote Back to top

Chuck,

I don't know why you need to give Vonage the mac address of the new router?

Basic router from Linksys like the WRT54G
you can find the specs for it here:
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1149562300349&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper

that will give you 4 port switch to hock up your hardwire pc to it which ofcourse will include your Vonage device.and you can also configure the wireless network.

if you need more power and more lan bandwidth then you got to go to the WRT150N which will deliver double the bandwidth the 54G can deliver but get ready to pay for it as the G is only about $49 from compusa for example.

Linksys is almost like plug and play..you can read about it and have their tech support walk you thru the config at no time it's easy..

You just need to make sure you secure your wireless network so no one can steal your bandwidth.

Good Luck
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

dheiy wrote:
could you please post the model of your devices, your current network setup
and tell me also which is your active Vonage device.
thanks. Eek


Hello dheiy...I currently have no network setup. I only have my 1 P4 computer, which has a network card, and my internet cable is connected to my Vtech wireless unit, which is connected to my network card. The active Vonage device I have is a wireless Vtech unit which works with 2 Vtech wireless phones. Thank you for your help.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject: Re: I need a router Reply with quote Back to top

mhasabal wrote:
Chuck,

I don't know why you need to give Vonage the mac address of the new router?

Basic router from Linksys like the
you can find the specs for it here:
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1149562300349&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper

that will give you 4 port switch to hock up your hardwire pc to it which ofcourse will include your Vonage device.and you can also configure the wireless network.

if you need more power and more lan bandwidth then you got to go to the WRT150N which will deliver double the bandwidth the 54G can deliver but get ready to pay for it as the G is only about $49 from compusa for example.

Linksys is almost like plug and play..you can read about it and have their tech support walk you thru the config at no time it's easy..

You just need to make sure you secure your wireless network so no one can steal your bandwidth.

Good Luck
Mhasabal



Mhasabal, thank you for your reply. Since I am a novice at networkingn (never having created a network before) can you please explain to me a little bit about the connections? I am seriously thinking about getting the Linksys unit you just mentioned (WRT54G)...I don't play games, and all I really want from the router is to be able to use my wireless Vonage phones, be able to use the internet, and access files on my current computer. I hope the WRT54G can handle all those things ok. As far as the connections go, would I leave the internet connection as it is now (into the Vtech unit), but instead of going from the unit to my current computer's network card, I'll be going into the WRT54G, is that correct? Also, once I get the WRT54G, what device will I need to get for my computers to transmit to the router? The router is basically a receiver, is that correct? I'm sorry for these questions which may seem ignorant, but like I say, networking is all new to me...I've built about 20 computers in my life but have never built a network...thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it!

P.S. I was told by Vonage customer service that I would need to get Linksys WRT54GP2 Wireless-G Broadband Router for Vonage Internet Phone Service...Is this true, or would the WRT54G work as well? Thanks again for the info!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The only reason i could see they would want the mac address of the "New" router would be to login to it, and set the Vonage phone device in a dmz mode. That's the ONLY reason i would know of them needing that information..

The Setup should be

Modem -----> Router ----> Your Voip Phone ----> Your Old Computer. (I'm assuming your Voip phone is a pass thru device)

Otherwise you could connect your old computer to the router, and use a separate lan cable to connect the Voip device to the router as well.

You could then enable the wireless setting on your router, to allow your new computer to work where you want it..

It was also wise of previous posters to tell you to enable the WAP / Wireless Passwords, to keep people from seeing & stealing your network bandwidth.

The suggestion of the wireless device WRT150N is reasonable. This will allow you to go wireless with your new computer, and if needed, keep the wired ports for your old computer and your Vonage device.

The WRT54GP2 has the phone adapter already build into the router. This means you could use any standard phone, and it too would plug into the router. If you already have a Voip phone, you would not need to spend extra for the GP2..

Just remember, that if you buy ANY Brand of Wireless device, it's best to stick to that brand when you get wireless cards. I know people will yell at me for that, but it's just safer when trying to get things to work..
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

gjdunga wrote:
The only reason i could see they would want the mac address of the "New" router would be to login to it, and set the Vonage phone device in a dmz mode. That's the ONLY reason i would know of them needing that information..

The Setup should be

Modem -----> Router ----> Your Voip Phone ----> Your Old Computer. (I'm assuming your Voip phone is a pass thru device)

Otherwise you could connect your old computer to the router, and use a separate lan cable to connect the Voip device to the router as well.

You could then enable the wireless setting on your router, to allow your new computer to work where you want it..

It was also wise of previous posters to tell you to enable the WAP / Wireless Passwords, to keep people from seeing & stealing your network bandwidth.

The suggestion of the wireless device WRT150N is reasonable. This will allow you to go wireless with your new computer, and if needed, keep the wired ports for your old computer and your Vonage device.

The WRT54GP2 has the phone adapter already build into the router. This means you could use any standard phone, and it too would plug into the router. If you already have a Voip phone, you would not need to spend extra for the GP2..

Just remember, that if you buy ANY Brand of Wireless device, it's best to stick to that brand when you get wireless cards. I know people will yell at me for that, but it's just safer when trying to get things to work..


gjdunga, thank you for your advice. I have gone ahead and ordered the WRT54G. Since HP is building my computer and it won't get here for another 3 weeks, I'll be able to at least setup the WRT54G, and make sure my Vonage phones work with the router before worrying about the new computer. I guess the only thing I need now would be a wireless card for the new PC. Since you say to stick with the same brand as the router, and I went with the Linksys WRT54G, can you suggest a good (around $50) Linksys wireless card for my new PC? Should I go with a USB or would a PCI version be better? My new computer will be in the room next to my current PC, no more than 25 away, but there is a wall in between. Any help suggesting a wireless card would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Your Milage will vary, depending on how far you want your card to work, what application you have the new computer for.. (Does it need the full bandwidth? , Do i have a buch of concrete walls between me and the router? )

WUSB300N Is a good Laptop solution..
WMP300N is a good desktop solution

These are designed to be used with your WRT150N

Your Price may vary..
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

gjdunga wrote:
Your Milage will vary, depending on how far you want your card to work, what application you have the new computer for.. (Does it need the full bandwidth? , Do i have a buch of concrete walls between me and the router? )

WUSB300N Is a good Laptop solution..
WMP300N is a good desktop solution

These are designed to be used with your WRT150N

Your Price may vary..


Actually I don't need the network for any gaming. I only need it for web browsing (I'm on a cable internet connection), and file sharing with the other computer. My walls are paper thin, modular home walls. I hope this narrows the field a bit better, sorry I wasn't more specific.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

If you've already purchased the WRT150N,

The two expressed above will work the best with it..

If you haven't purchased the WRT150N, we can select a different router, With diffrent features, and go from there.
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