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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Want to switch between PAP2 and softphone - can be done? Reply with quote Back to top

I sometimes travel and would like to take my phone with me. Rather than carry my PAP2 box and plug it into the router, I'd rather just turn it off before I leave, reassign my MAC to something like a softphone in my laptop and use it. Then when I get back, plug the PAP2 back in, switch the MAC back and use my regular setup.

is this possible to do without paying extra for a "softphone" line?
Also, would rather use the higher quality soundcard in the laptop as opposed to the v-phone dongle.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hi revnhoj,
you cannot switch your number between PAP2 and a soft phone.Instead you can add a v phone to the account and switch the number through your online account when you travel.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for the reply. That doesn't sound very good. I don't want to have to pay $40 for an external device which has worse audio quality than my laptop plus an additional $10 a month just so I can use my account a different way.

It should be like a cell phone service where I can change phones just by changing my ESN on the fly. I don't have to pay extra for this.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Anyone have any suggestions how I can accomplish this? Do any competitors have this capability?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

revnhoj wrote:
Thanks for the reply. That doesn't sound very good. I don't want to have to pay $40 for an external device which has worse audio quality than my laptop plus an additional $10 a month just so I can use my account a different way.

It should be like a cell phone service where I can change phones just by changing my ESN on the fly. I don't have to pay extra for this.


You cannot use your main account with softphone. You can sign up for softphone for short term use. There is no disconnect fee, but there is a setup fee on initialization. The good news is that softphone does have all of the controls as your main account,; call forwarding, voicemail, ring lists, etc. Your main number can be made to ring your softphone (and vice versa), and you can setup and make changes as needed online, just by visiting your dashboard.

With a good digital headset, softphone quality is excellent and easy to use on your laptop.

If your travel use is slight or intermittent, Skype minutes can be had for a $10 minimum, but does not include a dial-in number; all of your calling would be outbound for a few cents a minute. This is convenient and cheap, if you only need to make a call from time-to-time and the minutes persist until you use them.

Try softphone. I think you would like it, and the cost for the first month includes a setup fee and $10 per month thereafter. Your home phone could also be set to ring you when "away" and of course either voicemail account could be used when you are offline.

*** On edit: Revised my text to correct the softphone fee. (OOOPS)

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Wifi phone Reply with quote Back to top

The other thing I have been considering is the WiFi phone, but it does not work with Wifi connections that require http access to be able to use. The http support is the only think holding be back from switching to the WiFi phone and the cost of the phone. The UTStarcom F3000 that they say might support http in the future and the cheapest I have found it is for $195.00. See link below
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:18 am    Post subject: Softphone works with PAP2-NA Reply with quote Back to top

I have a Vonage softphone account, which I occasionally use as a softphone on my laptop, but more often use by entering the SIP credentials into a Linksys PAP2-NA. I have a Broadvoice BYOD account on the other port of the PAP2-NA with no conflicts or issues. Both work great on the PAP2-NA, and both can also be used as softphones. The Vonage softphone account works better on the PAP2-NA than on my laptop, which I think is to be expected. This is since the PAP2-NA (and most other analog telephone adapters or ATAs) has hardware (or firmware?) digital signal processing (DSP) for the Voip CODECs while any PC software phone must make do with software running on the shared general purpose CPU.

I don't have a V-phone (not willing to spring for a 5th Vonage service just yet), but I suspect that it's basically just a memory stick that still uses the PC to do its processing without benefiting from the hardware DSP of a real ATA. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about the lack of hardware DSP on the V-phone. BTW, does Vonage provide easy access to the V-phone SIP credentials as they do for the Vonage softphone, or is it basically locked like the Vonage-provisioned ATAs?

I have a Vonage primary account on a Vonage-provisioned Linksys PAP2 in addition to the Vonage softphone on the Linksys PAP2-NA. Vonage won't permit a softphone as your only account, and have stuck with the reprehensible business decision not to release SIP credentials to primary accounts. They also won't permit you to use the Vonage softphone on an unused port of your already owned Vonage-provisioned device, which is actually quite silly IMHO. Hence, my PAP2-NA solution and the extra provider.

Some have temporarily hacked their device at one time or another and gained access to their SIP credentials. Thus, those folks might be able to make do with just the Vonage main line without buying an additional softphone line. I do not recommend that practice since it's too time consuming and some say questionable ethically and/or legally.

However, you can move the Vonage softphone between any software phone (so-so call quality in my experience) and any unlocked hardware adapter (usually excellent quality, although Vonage was quite stingy with the setup criteria so I had to experiment a lot to get it working well on the PAP2-NA). My Vonage softphone on the PAP2-NA has equal call quality to my main Vonage line, and is often more reliable when traveling (probably due to simplistic Voip blocking by certain ISPs in some areas of the world).

The PAP2-NA is "unlocked" from the factory, and will remain so if purchased from a reputable online dealer such as voxilla.com or voipsupply.com. As a general rule DON'T get it from any Voip service provider, some of which have been known to poke holes in the shrink-wrap to change the passwords and lock it to their own service. As explained to me by a Best-Buy manager, unlocked phone adapters are generally not available in North American walk-in retail stores due to the lack of promotional discount to the stores (kick-backs?) from Voip providers! I have some questions about the ethics and legality of that practice, but further discussion of that topic might be slightly off-topic here.

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