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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:45 am    Post subject: Home wiring + ADSL + Alarm system + photo Reply with quote Back to top

Hi;
can you please help me wire my house, i'm using adsl connetion and have an alarm system. i will call my actual provider to hook me to dry-loop conection only (no phone, only adsl) here's the picture of my NIU (phone box) :



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What a mess there... You've got more than a few minor issues going on.

1) The phone line should come into the house, (ideally go into a surge protector) then go into the alarm system. From the alarm system, it should then feed the rest of the house. That way, when a burglar breaks in, they won't be able to take the phone off the hook to prevent the alarm system from dialing. Most alarm systems don't dial for 30-120 seconds after the break-in has occurred.

2) You're going to need to run the DSL line directly from the telco to the DSL modem. I believe they still put voltage on the naked DSL lines, which would fry your Voip ATAs.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

So should i just forget about Vonage ?Sad.
but could please just explain me what are all those wires in the box.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I don't think you need to forget about Vonage, but you do have an old, non-standard NIU making things difficult. As V-TPA explained, normally the phone wire goes from the NIU to the alarm panel, then back to the NIU, then from there to the rest of the house.

What you need to do is to change things so the landline, which will be naked DSL only, goes directly to the DSL modem. Then the output of the Vonage box needs to go to the alarm panel, and from the alarm panel to the rest of the house. The good news is that it looks as if you have a lot a separate cables in there, suggesting that there's a separate cable going from the NIU to each jack in the house. One of the first things that you need to do is verify that. By opening jacks in the house, you can see what kind of cable is in each one. Since some of the ones in the NIU have different physical appearance, it may help you in identifying things.

It appears that all the terminals in the center row are hooked together and all the ones in the bottom row are hooked together. You should verify that if it's correct. My guess is that the black wires on the lower right are the land lines to the phone company and the cable hooking to those wires, a red and green pair, goes to the alarm panel. The cables going to the center and bottom rows probably go to the various jacks in the house.

You're going to have to do a lot of investigating here, looking at things closely and using a lot of common sense. A volt-ohmmeter will help a lot.

I assume that your DSL is currently active and provides phone service, and that all the jacks in your house are active. If so, one way you can start is to select a cable going into the house. Remove one of the wires from that cable going to the middle or bottom rows of terminals. If that causes one, and only one jack in the house to go dead, then you've identified the cable going to that jack. Re-connect that cable and do the same with another. Soon you'll know where everything goes.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thank you very much guys for taking time to respond and trying to help me solve this problem, i will try taking off wires to see where they go. do you know why there's only one pair of black/yellow wires hooked ?

i appreciate your help, Thanks.
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Does the black/yellow pair go in the same cable with a red green pair? If so, is that red green pair the one hooked to the landline? If yes to both, I would guess that the red green carries the landline signal to the alarm panel and the yellow black brings it back to connect to the rest of the house wiring.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yes your guess is right Steve48, it's yes for both.
so what do you think i should do to make the jacks and alarm system work with Vonage.

Thanks in advance again.

Ps: I don't write too much cause i'm french speaking from Canada and my English is not enough good.
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My strategy would be to choose a jack to use both as your DSL feed to the DSL modem and as your feed to send Vonage back to the rest of the house. Let's call that your "service jack". Phone jacks in most houses are actually wired for two lines, but usually only one is in use. I suspect the same is in your house. Generally the red/green pair is line 1 and the yellow/black pair is line 2. That's why you see so many red/green pairs wired up in your NIU box and only one yellow/black pair.

I would start by opening the box to my service jack and making sure that there is actually a cable with all four wires coming in to it, and that they were wired to the jack as I've indicated. I'd determine which cable in the NIU box services that jack, as we talked about above. Call it the "service cable". Call the cable that currently connects to the alarm box and has its red/green pair connected to the DSL landline right now the "alarm cable".

In the NIU, disconnect the red/green pair in the service cable from the terminals it's now on. The yellow/black pair probably isn't connected to anything. Now disconnect the red/green pair in the alarm cable from the DSL feed. Leave the yellow/black alone. Connect the red in the service cable to the red in the alarm cable, and connect the green in the service cable to the green in the alarm cable. Use insulated crimps for this, since you have no terminals for making the connection. This has the effect of connecting the output of your Vonage box (we'll get to that) to the input of your alarm. The output of the alarm is already connected to the rest of the house (yellow/black), and we've left that alone.

Now connect the yellow/black in the service cable to the DSL feed (where the alarm cable used to be). This has the effect of sending your DSL to the service jack on line 2.

Now we need to set up your equipment at the service jack. For this, you need to buy a gadget they call an L1/L2 splitter. It plugs into a phone jack and separates the two lines in there, feeding them to separate phone jacks labelled line 1 and line 2. (It's not the same as a simple parallel splitter.) Get one of these and plug the common port into your service jack. Run an ordinary phone cord from the L2 port on your splitter to the input on the DSL modem. This gets your modem hooked up to the DSL service. Run another cord from the L1 port on the splitter to the output jack on the Vonage box, and you're all done. All the jacks in the house should carry the Vonage service on line 1, assuming the jacks are properly wired now.

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