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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: WRT54GP2 - monitoring my network? Reply with quote Back to top

i just bought a WRT54GP2 router.. (because of serious connectivity problems with the WRTP54G line)

i had not been in the process of setting it up for more than 2 minutes when i checked the DHCP client table. there was already someone connected to my network. i know this is pretty common, and im well verse in the wireless security technologies..

my question is, how can i monitor people on my network if i choose to leave myself open? what id LOVE is being able to see "screenshots" of whatever they are doing, but from what i read, you need a client/server setup for that.

but realistically, what program can i use to monitor anything that passes through the WAN side of my router, short of rewiring my network to make one of my clients the gateway?

any highly technical suggestions welcome. would be guessers need not apply.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That would be hard without some sort of intermediary device between the router and the modem. I know a Packetshaper would do it, but that's WAY too much money. Another thought is if you could get a PC running Ethereal connected to a dumb $15 hub that also hosts the connection from the router to the modem. That way you can watch what type of traffic is moving and capture it. Honestly, in this day and age, it's just easier to lock your access point down and be done with it. Leaving it open is an invitation for that brilliant hacker that finds you and takes everything down. Including your phone service. Where something like 911 is concerned, I'd personally err on the side of security. Just my $.02.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i like the idea of the dumb hub and the client.. thats easily enough accomplished, and i suppose it isnt too much of a "rewiring"..

thanks.. thats very insightful
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:35 am    Post subject: why are you secured? Reply with quote Back to top

My question is why are you leaving your wireless connection unsecured? It is very easy to set it up either WEP or better yet WPA. Change the wireless connection name from Linkys to something else and also change the default password and user name. If someone sees you have a linksys router they can change all the information on you, and lock you out until you reset the router.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Rosco,
I actually installed one at my house once, a WRT-54G and left it open on purpose, to see how long it would take to be hacked. I installed new firmware on it, the third-party stuff, and within 5 minutes it had been hit a couple of times. I live in a townhouse community, so the signal was covering a large amount of people. Just goes to show that there are people out there with nothing better to do.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Leechers Reply with quote Back to top

There is always someone who tries to get something for nothing, and free internet at the cost of someone else is no difference. I have mine secured and so do my neighbours.
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Rosco,
I actually installed one at my house once, a WRT-54G and left it open on purpose, to see how long it would take to be hacked. I installed new firmware on it, the third-party stuff, and within 5 minutes it had been hit a couple of times. I live in a townhouse community, so the signal was covering a large amount of people. Just goes to show that there are people out there with nothing better to do.


I don't use wireless and I don't have a laptop, so I don't know anything about these things. If someone nearby had his own wireless system and fired up his wireless laptop, would he even know if it chose to latch onto your wireless network rather than his own?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:35 pm    Post subject: you have to choose Reply with quote Back to top

You have to choose which wireless connection you want to connect to. When I scan my area I usually see 3 or 4 connections, but they are all protected. You don't need a laptop for this you can buy a wireless adaptor for you desktop computer as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Interesting. Thanks.

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