Vonage & Direcway will they play nice in 2007?

Posts: 1 · New Forum Member Joined: Jan 01, 2007 Posts: 1

Looking to replace current land line??? Not so sure after reading some past input??? Does anyone have good news to offer as to the progress of the two companys resolving the issues at hand ?? Inquiring minds want to know... Thanks...

Posts: 36 · Vonage Forum Junior Joined: Dec 27, 2006 Posts: 36

i hope! but i don't know how they will get around the SAT internet latency issues.

I have read the quality of sound issue is easily fixed but the 2-3 second delay i dont know.

I'm courious as well.

Posts: 4751 · Vonage Forum **MVM** Joined: Aug 30, 2005 Posts: 4751

I can't imagine how a satellite internet service would ever provide satisfactory VoIP phone service except for specialized situations.

Posts: 60 · Full Forum Member Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Posts: 60

Steve48 wrote:

I can't imagine how a satellite internet service would ever provide satisfactory VoIP phone service except for specialized situations.

It's done but not for quality purposes. The military does it with tactical satellite units in the field, but everyone knows it's better than nothing and accept the way it is.

Fact of the matter is, there will always a delay using satellite, and you will have to accept that if you want to use a service such as Vonage or the others. The satellite is 22,300 miles up in space and then back. Thats 44,600 miles round-trip.

Posts: 4751 · Vonage Forum **MVM** Joined: Aug 30, 2005 Posts: 4751

Agreed. It's a shame, though, that they don't improve the system latency. Even 44,600 miles is only about 1/4 second of inherent round trip delay. The typical latencies that I've seen reported here are much higher.

Posts: 60 · Full Forum Member Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Posts: 60

Not to beat a dead horse, but it's more than 1/4 second. With spoofing, I get a little more than 1/2 second delay, without spoofing it's more like 1500-2000ms delay. This is the result of a ping test to one of my remote sites in California (I'm in Indiana). I operate a corporate HughesNet hub to 1560 remote sites. Prior to "upgrading" to HughesNet, my Hughes PES remotes would reply in the 1500-2000ms time. My farthest remotes are in Hawaii and Puerto Rico, but they all operate at about the same delay.

Then you have to add the processing delay of everything on both ends of the connection, and your typical response time is about 1 second.

Code:

Pinging 10.210.148.16 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 10.210.148.16: bytes=32 time=688ms TTL=62
Reply from 10.210.148.16: bytes=32 time=617ms TTL=62
Reply from 10.210.148.16: bytes=32 time=608ms TTL=62
Reply from 10.210.148.16: bytes=32 time=599ms TTL=62

Ping statistics for 10.210.148.16:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 599ms, Maximum = 688ms, Average = 628ms

Posts: 4751 · Vonage Forum **MVM** Joined: Aug 30, 2005 Posts: 4751

jmelcher wrote:

Not to beat a dead horse, but it's more than 1/4 second.

Aw, let's beat on it some more. Smile

I agree with everything you've said- lot's of nice data.

My point was the 44,600 miles is under 1/4 second at the speed of light. There's nothing anyone can do about that. All the other factors that you've listed can be trimmed way down, at least in theory. If they could get the total down to 1/2 second or so, VoIP would be usable in a pinch using satellite. As you've pointed out, the typical total is upwards of a second or more, and it's pretty hard to carry on a conversation with that kind of delay.

Posts: 36 · Vonage Forum Junior Joined: Dec 27, 2006 Posts: 36

accually things dont get really weird or hard to converse easily untill over 2 sec of delay. many low cost or free morale calls back to the states for service members in remote locations are at about that amount of delay. Its not that bad from my experiences.

Although if i was paying full price for that quality of service i wouldn't be thrilled.