hard wiring with a FiOS box

Posts: 1 · New Forum Member Joined: Dec 21, 2006 Posts: 1

I have Vonage with FiOS. I bought a 3-wireless phone package, so phone is excellent without wiring.

NOW... my alarm is down, cuz i dont have the wireline anymore. All instructions I have found seem to be for old boxes, probably copper cables; but mine is different, kind of newer cuz they installed it when i got FiOS.

This box (outside the house) is fed by fiber, i think. And i can see it get distributed to 4 two-contact connections (like phone lines), and a Ethernet connection..I wish I can post a picture here for you to see.

So far, I've disconnected the 4 cables to make sure no power is getting into the house. Then I connected from the Vonage adapter into a wall, so i should be able to hear tone by plugin a phone to one of those 4 jacks in the outdoor box.
But, i didnt got tone at all in any of those connections...

Do somebody know what I'm trying to explain here?
Let me know, thanks!

Posts: 2 · Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: hard wiring with a FiOS box

Does your ONT look like this?

If so, how many cables do you have wired at the bottom right on those flip tabs? If only one, you should be able to take the wires out from the tab, and then connect your Vonage adapter to any jack, and have phone service throughout the house, assuming there is a junction point for all jacks somewhere within the house (basement, etc)

If there are more wires, you will have to create some sort of a junction. If there are 3 wires are less, this is generally pretty easy with some scotchloks, or butt splices. Basically these allow you to splice the tip and ring together on each wire, to bridge service to all telephone drops. The big thing is that you'll want the wires removed from the IDC connectors (flip tabs with T and R labels) This just disconnects it from the Verizon POTS interface on the ONT.

From what I read, it appears you have 4 wires, one pair in each of the 4 tabs. If so, you'll want to have a solution to bridge them all together. It'd be ideal to bridge these together neatly, such as on a 66/110 punchdown block, but there's probably not too much room in the ONT. If you want to get neat, you could probably pull the wires from outside to in without cutting them (if ONT is external) and purchase one of these from your local electrical/home supply store. If the interface is internal, this would be even easier. If this sounds above your head, a bad way would be to strip all conductors, and twist them together. Then you could wrap them with electrical tape, but I wouldn't recommend this. I would only recommend this as a last solution, and temporary one at that.

If you can bring the wires inside without cutting them, this would be a viable punchdown solution:
http://www.leviton-lin.com/catalog/BuildPage.aspx?BuildPageID=579
Basically this allows for 9 independent connections for up to 4 lines. that would be only something I'd recommend if you've done phone wiring before. The stripping of the 4 wires and taping might work best for you. It's certainly not the best option, but it's better than buying all of the equipment for the best possible install, and not being able to do it.

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joefranco wrote:

Does your ONT look like this?

If so, how many cables do you have wired at the bottom right on those flip tabs? If only one, you should be able to take the wires out from the tab, and then connect your Vonage adapter to any jack, and have phone service throughout the house, assuming there is a junction point for all jacks somewhere within the house (basement, etc)

If there are more wires, you will have to create some sort of a junction. If there are 3 wires are less, this is generally pretty easy with some scotchloks, or butt splices. Basically these allow you to splice the tip and ring together on each wire, to bridge service to all telephone drops. The big thing is that you'll want the wires removed from the IDC connectors (flip tabs with T and R labels) This just disconnects it from the Verizon POTS interface on the ONT.

From what I read, it appears you have 4 wires, one pair in each of the 4 tabs. If so, you'll want to have a solution to bridge them all together. It'd be ideal to bridge these together neatly, such as on a 66/110 punchdown block, but there's probably not too much room in the ONT. If you want to get neat, you could probably pull the wires from outside to in without cutting them (if ONT is external) and purchase one of these from your local electrical/home supply store. If the interface is internal, this would be even easier. If this sounds above your head, a bad way would be to strip all conductors, and twist them together. Then you could wrap them with electrical tape, but I wouldn't recommend this. I would only recommend this as a last solution, and temporary one at that.

If you can bring the wires inside without cutting them, this would be a viable punchdown solution:
http://www.leviton-lin.com/catalog/BuildPage.aspx?BuildPageID=579
Basically this allows for 9 independent connections for up to 4 lines. that would be only something I'd recommend if you've done phone wiring before. The stripping of the 4 wires and taping might work best for you. It's certainly not the best option, but it's better than buying all of the equipment for the best possible install, and not being able to do it.

Mine looks the same as the picture you posted.

Can you show me on the pic where I need to connect the Vonage, do I use the network cable or a phone cable and do I plug it directly into the ONT in the garage (in the photo) or do I just pull the two wires out for the ONT and plug the Vonage into an outlet in the house ?

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mwhaley wrote:

Can you show me on the pic where I need to connect the Vonage, do I use the network cable or a phone cable and do I plug it directly into the ONT in the garage (in the photo) or do I just pull the two wires out for the ONT and plug the Vonage into an outlet in the house ?

You just pull the two phone wires out of the ONT connections (leave them in the box and insulate each end). Plug the Vonage phone output into an outlet in the house. A network connection from the ONT needs to go to the internet port on the Vonage box, or to a router and from there to the Vonage box.