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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:45 pm    Post subject: Vonage via wireless 3G cellular service Reply with quote Back to top

I'm curious if I can do this... primarily because of hurricane season. Last batch of hurricanes knocked our internet connection out of service for 9 days. However, my cell phone was up and running in 2 days. I routinely tether my cell phone to my laptop to get to the internet, and with 3G service, I can get about 700kbps downstream. Question is, if I then use Internet Connection Sharing on the laptop, and connect it to the WAN port of the Vonage router, will Vonage work? This would be a good solution to extended cable outages... and gives us another phone line to use. Any other ideas? I've looked at 3G routers, but they are quite expensive!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Sounds intriguing. I think it would work, since we've heard from people who use internet sharing through a computer to get Vonage up and running. On the other hand, it sounds as if you'd be tying up the cell phone to make a Vonage phone work. And you need to keep the computer running. Sounds counterproductive.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It does sound counterproductive until you find out that I work from home and need to have an internet connection through the pc and it is always on anyway... The option of running Vonage through it would allow us to have a regular "home" line as well as my business line through the cell (data/voice can work simultaneously). I found a D-Link router (sold now by Kyocera KR-1) that supposedly will do this... price about $240... maybe I'll wait and run a test using my laptop and the built-in ICS software from MSoft.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Good idea. Run the forum VoIP/speed test as well.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:21 am    Post subject: DOVADO WRG Reply with quote Back to top

I found a box that can do stuff like the KR1 (WiFi and Lan, along with a PC card slot), but it's also got two phone ports that can handle Voip. I guess since it's SIP it must be able to do Vonage as well. It says that they got support for HSDPA and other stuff, so it ought to work just fine over here. It's called the DOVADO Wireless Residential Gateway (WRG). They keep a list of supported card on http://www.dovado.com/Portfolio_Standards.html
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I've tried this many times...still haven't gotten real quality results. Forget using it with EDGE, not enough bandwidth there to do anything meaningful. I've played with EV-DO extensively and in theory there's enough bandwidth to be there, but the latency is a killer. In a pinch, and if both parties are very patient, you can sometimes get a good enough connection to make it happen, but even then the audio will be choppy and have dropouts. I'd rate it one step above smoke signals.

That said, I've had very good results running Voip over analog dial-up modem internet service. Drop Vonage down to its lowest bitrate and make sure you have absolutely NO other internet traffic on that connection, and you'll be able to get phone calls that are about the same as a medium-grade cell phone call.

As far as 3rd party boxes, keep in mind that Vonage won't let you bring your own device to their service. You must use Vonage-approved, Vonage-specific Voip adapters.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

No reason this shouldn't work, with a few limitation:

1. some cell phone companies block SIP, they don't like competition :\
2. Many cell broadband systems have high latency. Tmobile GPRS has often 500-850ms latency- that's .8 seconds, which means that when you say something to somebody it will be noticably delayed. You may or may not notice this.
3. You will get much better results if you turn on 'bandwidth saver', aka selecting a high-compression codec.
4. some cell companies place usage limits on their unlimited usage wireless accounts. If that sounds dumb, that's because it is. Voip uses a bunch of bandwidth (more if you don't use BW saver) so if you use it a lot then they may yell at you or cancel your account. Verizon has done this a number of times that I know of.
5. You may have to forward ports through the windows 'internet connection sharing' for Vonage to work.

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