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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

VonageTPA

dial-up connection will NEVER work with Vonage because the bandwidth is not sufficient for the service,

you may have dial tone, but you might have problems in audio and
internet connection for the computer

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Vonage TPA might have a point there:
He did say that the audio quality was passable, and that it had a cellphone-ish quallity.. I believe it must be said that Vonage TPA knew what he was doing with his configurations, and maybe that helped him gather sufficient bandwidth to go through with this. Furthermore, we didn't ask him the speed of his dial-up.

But how did you do the network setup? Vonage devices run through ethernet cables- perhaps through ICS? (tel cable > PC > Vonage device) [yes, it's possible to have the Vonage device running "after" the PC...but I had a hard time configuring that]

For public consumption, just say no to dial-up and Vonage working in tandem. ^_^
It's for (your) own good. Less hassles in the future.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

oh I see
but i believe its impossible for it to work fine,
because a Vonage line needs 90kbps of bandwidth speed
and I believe dial up internet only gives you almost 50 kbps...

hmm may be you can provide us with your set-up

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Vonage uses 30kbps at the lowest quality setting. (Vonage.com->Account Login -> Features-> Bandwidth Saver -> 30kbps)

Dial-up modems will usually connect between 28.8k-56k for the downstream, 26.4k-33.6k for the upstream. It's a tight fit, but as long as you're not running anything else on the connection, it can work rather well. I've done this in the past with a laptop, using the laptop's modem for the dial-up connection, then using ICS to allow the ethernet port packets to be routed to the modem. I've had best results when using a USR Courier modem, but that comes as no surprise, the Couriers still sell for $270+, which is pretty impressive for an old analog dial-up modem.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

you may have a point there Vonage TPA
but I believe the audio of that phone will be terrible,
it's not advisable to get dial up for Vonage

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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dheiy wrote:
agreed.

also make sure that they are not using dial-up
connections.

it will not work with your Vonage device. Wink


Believe it or not, Vonage *can* work with dial-up connections, BUT, it requires you know what you're doing with TCP/IP, dial-up modems, and Voip. I've done it a few times in a pinch. Audio quality was passable but not perfect, more like my old Cingular cell phone than anything (without the dropped calls/no service, but that's another story)

Still haven't been able to get a satisfactory Vonage call over EVDO yet, but still trying.






i dont mean in general..
what i mean is that dial up will not work perfectly and will make your call so horrible.!

because dialup connection cannot give consistent signal. Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I agree that it's a less than ideal situation and certainly wouldn't recommend dial-up as your primary connection with Vonage, BUT, when you're on the road, you take what you can get. Audio quality really is quite usable, but it's more on par with cell phones at that point. As far as dial-up not being "consistent", that's simply not true. If anything, I've seen more consistency with dial-up connections than most residential cable internet services. At the very least, dial-up is more reliable when you're using industrial-grade equipment.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Use Vonage overseas? Maybe yes, maybe no Reply with quote Back to top

Here's my $0.02

Vonage should work fine anywhere if you have:
- Good quality high speed internet
- The country you're in doesn't block Voip
- The ISP you're using doesn't block Voip
- The hotel you're using doesn't block Voip

And it'll be easiest if you have hard-wired Ethernet.

If you are having to get your internet access wireless or USB, you'll have to use your laptop to bridge from the wireless or USB to Ethernet, which requires configuration changes on your computer. This is adddressed in other threads.

Do be sure to get the voltage adapter issue right.


As far as dialup goes, I've used "T" (the old Deutsche Telekom) dialup for Voip in the Kaiserslautern, Germany area with some success. It sounded like a bad cell phone connection getting ready to drop, but it did work. As others have alluded, if it's all you can get, it's at least worth a try. Set the Vonage bandwidth saver to 30k as previously stated.

For an example of what works well, I have some friends who moved to Misawa AB in northern Honshu, Japan. They have high speed internet (~300 kbps, DSL from the local TELCO). It sounds like they're next door whan they call back to the US using Vonage.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

"because dialup connection cannot give consistent signal."

Question

Huh?

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navydavy2001 wrote:
"because dialup connection cannot give consistent signal."

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Huh?


what he means is that dial up has no steady signal for internet, and the range of dial up connectivity is from 26 to 56 kbps which is insufficient for Voip services

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