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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Alternatively you can try to convince Vonage to give you a discount on the vt2442 (they give them for free to us Canadians Smile ), place it up front between your cable modem and your existing router. Shouldn't need any tweaking, just plug and go, as the vt2442 will automatically prioritize all Voip traffic. That's how I have mine setup and it works better then the countless other variations I have tried with my wrt54gs (version 2), including QoS, 3rd party firmware, port forwarding, etc.

Current setup:

cable modem -> vt2442 -> wrt54gs -> all pcs

Default config for all devices, except of course locking down my wireless network.


well, anyone reading multiple posts by me over time will notice that I've changed devices/configurations like I change socks Smile

I was at FutureShop (canadian bestbuy type store) and got a Dlink VTA for $10. The geek in me just had to have it. So the latest config I put together this weekend is:

SA dpc2100 cable modem -> wrt54gs v2 (thibor 15c firmware) -> dlink vta.

I have enabled QoS as per Natehoy's detailed instructions at:

http://vonage.nmhoy.net/qos.html
http://vonage.nmhoy.net/wrt54glqos.html

and I will see how things go. I'll keep the free vt2442 as a backup.

Natehoy, you mention'd that you like thibor 14 better. Is there a specific reason why I would downgrade to that firmware version?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thibor 14 seemed to me to be faster and have slightly more effective QoS. However, I did have good luck with 15c, and both are completely stable.

If 15c is working for you, go with it. In fact, one of these days, I'll probably just rewrite my article for 15c.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks everyone for the help on this thread. I've found a solution that is working for me so far, so I will post it here for everyone's benefit.

I have installed the Tomato firmware on my WRT54GL, and set up the QoS. It is working great, and the Vonage voice quality is excellent with no breakup regardless of other internet use.

So, my setup is now DSL modem -> WRT54GL(Tomato) -> Vonage VT1005V. The WRT also has 12 to 16 other devices connected, with varying network needs.

Also, as a little history, I used to run DD-WRT firmware on the Linksys but it became unstable over time. Not sure what happened, but it was freezing and rebooting often. So far, no stability problems at all with Tomato - and you've got to love the AJAXy interface!

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Tomato firmware site:
http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato

A review of Tomato:
http://bok.xs4all.nl/weblog/archive/2006/09/15/review-tomato-firmware-for-wrt54g/
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Tomato is very nice, isn't it? I've been running it for a few months, and it has really worked well.

I haven't put out an article on configuring it nor have I recommended it primarily because it is an early beta (albeit a better-written beta than most commercial software I have worked with - LOL).

But, having used it for a while, I have found that it is a LOT faster than anything else I have used, and very stable.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

At this point, I love Tomato! I am ecstatic about the performance of my voice quality, and how robust it is to internet use. The low release number almost put me off (I am running version 0.09), but I agree that the quality beats much commercial software. It is fast, too. Only thing that seems slow is assigning DHCP addresses, but that is a non-issue.

If things continue to work this well for me, I'll be sending a donation to Tofu for the good work.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

mmm... tomato..

I switched back to cable modem -> vt2442 -> wrt54gs (thibor 15c), because of a lot of echo I received with the last config with the dlink. However, I'm pretty sure the echo wasn't anything to do with the dlink (wrong?), since I still got a few calls with echo with the latest setup, albeit a lot less. It seems like the echo cancellation in the vt2442 is a little better.

Any idea what I can do to reduce the possibility of receiving echo (hearing my own voice)? People at the other end say the call quality is perfect, so it's only me that hears the echo periodically on some calls, and *only* on calls that I initiate. Incoming calls never exhibit this 'echo' trait.

So, here's my hardware:

webstar dpc2100 cable modem
wrt54gs v2.0
d-link vta
motorola vt2442

It could be me, but it does seem like the call quality is best when the vt2442 is up front with everything else behind it. But the geek in me wants to keep trying different configs Smile

Would a different firmware make any difference in this instance? I doubt it, but I'm pretty new to this, so any feedback you can provide would be appreciated.

I would love to shelf the vt2442 for a couple of reasons:

- background noise is high. Hiss, high pitch sound, etc.
- the leds are crazy bright and it distracts me.. I know.. I could just cover it up or turn it around.. but I'm drawn to them lol
- I'd like to get my phone adapter behind a router/firewall and control everything from my wrt54gs.

Ideally, I'd like the wrt54gs up front, with the d-link behind it. But I keep coming back to the vt2442 (up front) config after playing for a few days.

And lastly, can someone provide me with the latest tomato 0.09 gs code.bin checksum? I don't see it on the site and want to make sure it's solid before flashing.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Tomato sure is pretty. Flashed this morning.

I've reconnected my dlink vta, and enabled qos. Let's see how it goes.

I admit, the qos is a little more complex. Any suggestions on configurations? I only need to prioritize the dlink device. I've classified it as 'highest' via mac address, saved changed. I also entered 90% of my worst speed test in 'Max Bandwidth' for outgoing rate and left everything else as default.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Webfors -

I have a WRTP54G, and the only configuration that really works for me is to put a WRT54G V4 in front of it. I have run HyperWRT Tofu and Thibor on it, then Tomato (starting in version 0.03 and incrementally upgraded to the current 0.09), and all of them have worked perfectly with my WRTP54G.

Tomato is by far the fastest. I have tried, though.

Output from "sum" command in SuSE Linux 10.1 for the GS version of Tomato 0.09:

58013 2641

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

webfors wrote:

I admit, the qos is a little more complex. Any suggestions on configurations? I only need to prioritize the dlink device. I've classified it as 'highest' via mac address, saved changed. I also entered 90% of my worst speed test in 'Max Bandwidth' for outgoing rate and left everything else as default.


That should do it. I'd also set a default QoS classification of "Low", then you can prioritize other services if you ever need to.

But the beauty is that it's easy to tell if it is working. Simply look at the QoS classification charts, pick up your Vonage line and make a call (933 works for this, if you don't actually want to talk to someone at the moment), then look at the QoS charts again. "Highest" should start showing connections. If it doesn't, you have something configured wrong.

The QoS charts and feedback screens are, by far, the nicest thing about Tomato. Get to know them, they are your very good friend.

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The QoS features of Tomato are amazing. The 'view chart' and 'view details' are the best tools I've seen yet for monitoring QoS activity.

Wow.. very happy. If it's stable, then I'll be sticking with it!

Already sent a donation.. work like this needs to be rewarded Smile

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