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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:10 am    Post subject: Daisy chaining a Vonage connected telephone to a PERS Box. Reply with quote Back to top

Forgive me if this topic has already been brought up. (I tried searching for it specifically and haven't found it.) I have what is known as a Personal Emergency Response System (PERS), hooked up via land-line (POTS), daisy chained to my POTS telephone. Since I'm planning on cancelling my POTS line, I would like to know if I can daisy chain my PERS box (it's just a box, not a full telephone system) to the phone I use with Vonage, and then have my phone plugged into the Vonage device.

I haven't tested it this way yet, because I don't want to short anything out. Thanks for your assistance!

BTW if you don't know what a Personal Emergency Response System is, it's one of those little speaker boxes that, when you press a button on either a pendant or a wrist band it dials an 800 number to a centralized call center who'll answer and dispatch help if needed. The back of my PERS box has two jacks, one that resembles an ethernet jack (with a cord that has that connector on one end and an RJ-11 connector on the other to plug into the wall) and one that resembles a regular RJ-11 phone jack to daisy chain a regular telephone into if needed.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: Daisy chaining a Vonage connected telephone to a PERS Bo Reply with quote Back to top

tmbeem wrote:
I would like to know if I can daisy chain my PERS box ... to the phone I use with Vonage, and then have my phone plugged into the Vonage device.

First, check your PERS box to be sure that it works as a DTMF (touch-tone) device. Also, I assume that by "daisy chain" you are referring to hooking it up in series.

Many of those devices are designed to capture the telephone line so it can make an emergency call even if a telephone is in use or off-hook. Therefore you would want your PERS box between your telephone(s) and your telephone service (whether that is POTS or Vonage). I think this would be the configuration that would work for you:

Internet --> internet modem --> Vonage box --> PERS box --> telephones

Of course, your computers will be connected directly to (or via a router or switch or etc.) either your internet modem box or your Vonage box depending on the models of those devices.

Good luck
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: Daisy chaining a Vonage connected telephone to a PERS Bo Reply with quote Back to top

xnewuser wrote:
tmbeem wrote:
I would like to know if I can daisy chain my PERS box ... to the phone I use with Vonage, and then have my phone plugged into the Vonage device.

First, check your PERS box to be sure that it works as a DTMF (touch-tone) device. Also, I assume that by "daisy chain" you are referring to hooking it up in series.

Many of those devices are designed to capture the telephone line so it can make an emergency call even if a telephone is in use or off-hook. Therefore you would want your PERS box between your telephone(s) and your telephone service (whether that is POTS or Vonage). I think this would be the configuration that would work for you:

Internet --> internet modem --> Vonage box --> PERS box --> telephones

Of course, your computers will be connected directly to (or via a router or switch or etc.) either your internet modem box or your Vonage box depending on the models of those devices.

Good luck

To answer all your questions in the order posted: Yes the PERS is a DTMF device. Yes, I am referring to hooking it up in series. No, my PERS device does not work if the phone is off the hook or otherwise in use. (It needs an available line to reach emergency personnel.)

I'll attempt to configure the setup in the way you described and see if that works. (I have my current setup in my signature.) I was considering plugging the PERS into line 2 of my Vonage device and adding a second line but I need line 2 for my yet-to-be-added fax machine.

Thanks for your speedy reply and your helpful hints!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: Re: Daisy chaining a Vonage connected telephone to a PERS Bo Reply with quote Back to top

xnewuser wrote:
tmbeem wrote:
I would like to know if I can daisy chain my PERS box ... to the phone I use with Vonage, and then have my phone plugged into the Vonage device.

First, check your PERS box to be sure that it works as a DTMF (touch-tone) device. Also, I assume that by "daisy chain" you are referring to hooking it up in series.

Many of those devices are designed to capture the telephone line so it can make an emergency call even if a telephone is in use or off-hook. Therefore you would want your PERS box between your telephone(s) and your telephone service (whether that is POTS or Vonage). I think this would be the configuration that would work for you:

Internet --> internet modem --> Vonage box --> PERS box --> telephones

Of course, your computers will be connected directly to (or via a router or switch or etc.) either your internet modem box or your Vonage box depending on the models of those devices.

Good luck

Hi, and thanks again for your reply. I got around to connecting things as you said to do, however because most of my accidents requiring calling the PERS Emergency Personnel would have a greater chance of happening either in my bedroom or my bathroom, the personnel couldn't hear me if my PERS box was in the living room. As I don't have a second computer, I can't hook the PERS up to Vonage in the bedroom where it is currently located on my POTS line, which I'm going to have deactivated in a few weeks time.

It's become a moot point anyway because as of Jan. 1st, 2007, my insurance company will no longer pay the monthly PERS charges, so I'm going to have to give it up. In the 5 years I've had the PERS I've only had to use it for an emergency once. So I figure it's really not that important for me to keep around if I have to pay a $30+ monthly charge.

Anyway, thanks again. I just wanted to tell you your solution worked as far as conectivity is concerned!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Daisy chaining a Vonage connected telephone to a PERS Bo Reply with quote Back to top

tmbeem wrote:
It's become a moot point anyway because as of Jan. 1st, 2007, my insurance company will no longer pay the monthly PERS charges, so I'm going to have to give it up. In the 5 years I've had the PERS I've only had to use it for an emergency once. So I figure it's really not that important for me to keep around if I have to pay a $30+ monthly charge.

So go to Radio Shack and get their Personal Emergency Dialer [Catalog #: 49-1005] for about $60. It can't be used to call 911 or a monitoring service (with the monthly cost), but you can use it to make a lot of racket (local alarm) and call up to six neighbors or relatives.

Let's see.... 5 years at $30 PER MONTH vs $60 (plus batteries and maybe a wall wart). I guess I'm sort of a cheapskate,... wait a minute! That's why I signed up for Vonage!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Daisy chaining a Vonage connected telephone to a PERS Bo Reply with quote Back to top

xnewuser wrote:
tmbeem wrote:
It's become a moot point anyway because as of Jan. 1st, 2007, my insurance company will no longer pay the monthly PERS charges, so I'm going to have to give it up. In the 5 years I've had the PERS I've only had to use it for an emergency once. So I figure it's really not that important for me to keep around if I have to pay a $30+ monthly charge.

So go to Radio Shack and get their Personal Emergency Dialer [Catalog #: 49-1005] for about $60. It can't be used to call 911 or a monitoring service (with the monthly cost), but you can use it to make a lot of racket (local alarm) and call up to six neighbors or relatives.

Let's see.... 5 years at $30 PER MONTH vs $60 (plus batteries and maybe a wall wart). I guess I'm sort of a cheapskate,... wait a minute! That's why I signed up for Vonage!

Well, I'm NOT a cheapskate, but I am on a budget, which is why I switched from POTS to Vonage. Thank you for your suggestion, I'll have to look into it to see if it's viable for my situation. Smile

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