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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: QOS settings for Vonage using DD-WRT .V23 SP2 Reply with quote Back to top

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Cable Modem - WRT54GL - RT31P2(vonage)

I recently purchased the WRT54GL replaced the WRT54G for call quality and flashed it with DDWRT V23 SP2. Can someone tell me the ideal settings for QOS for Vonage? There are so many options in DD-WRT; I don't know what to change. I have read other forums and now I am more confused than ever.

If anyone has any information on setting up the WRT54GL with the RT31P2 as well. I read the article thatw as located at http:/vonage.nmhoy.net/wrt54gl.html but those settings are for the Thibor 14 firmware. Is there a document like this one but for the DD-WRT screens.

Thanks in advance for your responses.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: QOS settings for Vonage using DD-WRT .V23 SP2 Reply with quote Back to top

Hello Connie,

Please post your realistic upload/download speeds.

For now, login to your newly DD-WRT flashed router.

1. Click on Applications/Gaming Tab > QoS
2. Enable QoS
3. Set Upload speed to <your upload speed> minus 90K for highest call setting or minus 50K for Higher (You can get these values from your Vonage Dashboard > Bandwidth Saver) then add about 10K for overhead as well.

For example. if your internet connection is 384Kb up and 6Mb down, you would subtract 90K from 384K minus another 10K for overhead. This leaves you with around 284K for OTHER traffic.

Note: The upload value being requested here is the bandwidth you'd be giving to the rest of the network. People always get it the other way, thus almost no internet upload but voice. Get the picture? Very Happy

No need to fill in Download Value. Just leave at Zero

This may seem a bit harsh but this is how DD-WRT handles QoS. it works though! So you won't have to sacrifice a lot of bandwidth, use the middle setting in the bandwidth saver at 50K. Truthfully there's almost no difference in audio clarity.

Once you've set the Upload Speed of your QoS value, proceed to the bottom of the screen where you can prioritize by MAC address. Enter the MAC address of your phone adapter and set it to Premium. This is important!

Last, also prioritize by port. For argument's sake, if your adapter is on port 1, set the port to Premium and the rest to standard. This ensures that no other traffic gets prioritized.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thank you very much. I set everything to the way you specified. I guess I will test when I have to call someone tomorrow.

I am not enjoying the WRT54GL with DD-WRT. Ever since using my download speed has been crawling and slowly dying. But that is another issue
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Connie wrote:
Thank you very much. I set everything to the way you specified. I guess I will test when I have to call someone tomorrow.

I am not enjoying the WRT54GL with DD-WRT. Ever since using my download speed has been crawling and slowly dying. But that is another issue


Did you restore factory default before installing DD-WRT and then do a hard reset using the reset button after installing DD-WRT? If not, that may be your issue. As far as the up and down speeds go, I just followed what it said on the sidebar and everything works great.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yes
I have reset so many times I am sure the button is worn down by now. I am so tired of trying to improve my call quality with Vonage. I have no idea who's fault it is since the ISP is pointing at Vonage and Vonage is pointing at the ISP while I still have outgoing choppy calls with high jitter. I use my cell phone for to make calls; that way I can be understood.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'm sorry to hear about your frustration. How about we start from scratch?
Step1:
Try using your Vonage line without being on the computer. Or you can also try removing the router from the equation. Like: cable modem <> Vonage adapter. Make sure to turn everything off first then power on when everything is connected. Place a test call from your cell phone and see if you can hear choppy outgoing audio from your Vonage line.
If it's clear on both ends then follow the next step:

Step2: Add the router in the equation (power everything off first then turn back on when connected)
cable modem <> router <> Vonage adapter - No computers yet
Place another call from your cell to your Vonage line.
Did this work? Is audio clear on both ends?

Step3: Apply QoS settings I gave you earlier. Make sure that outgoing settings in QoS should be set to Zero. As far as your inbound goes, you're going to need to tweak this depending on how much bandwidth you're using as shown in the Vonage bandwidth saver in the website. Once saved, place another call and verify audio then proceed below.

Step4: Add the computer to the scenario. Upload anything to the internet like a huge file ex. 12MB. This should give you enough time to test while it runs. During upload place another call. Tweak the QoS settings until you hear perfect audio.

what is your upload and download speeds?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I will have to wait until the weekend to bring the network down. I work from home alot so I need my network during the week.

my advertised speeds are 4/256. I never get anywhere near that. usually get about 758kbps and for upload usually 160kbps. Sometimes slower on both ends. I am going to do what you suggested and I will let you know if it works.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You bet! Just drop a message here at anytime and I'll continue to watch the thread. Good luck and I hope you see the light at the end of the tunnel.

BTW, please do an actual speed test with and without the router. Here are a couple of sites that I use.

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

https://www.vonage.com/help.php?article=497&category=102&nav=102

Please write down the actual numbers you can get out of both. Please psot your results on your next response.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have:
Motorola SB5100 Cable Modem - WRT54GL - Motorola VT2142

I think I have that motorola model # right....Also, the WRT54GL is running DD-WRT v.23 SP2.

I have the same setup as Connie, but whenever I go to enable QoS, I can only communicate to the router and that's it. I check the status page, and I notice my WAN IP address has gone from some value (prior to enable of QoS) to 0.0.0.0 after enabling the QoS. What the heck!?!

Let me know if I need more detail to provide. Thank you in advance.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I switched from dd-wrt to tomato for my router. DD-wrt is more powerful, but tomato has a great QOS optimizer. It made it easy to figure out what my bandwith hogs were and to downgrade certain other services. Tomato also lets you create virtual static IPs (the same address is also served to a specific MAC address) which is nice when you are plugging in a device with locked down firmware into your router.

The big reason I changed was I was having a problem losing my registration too often with dd-wrt. Since I went to tomato I've been up for weeks at a time.
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