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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I would suspect that if your costs are that close you didn't have a lot of additional features on your Verizon line. While I could get a basic rate that was close to Vonage, I couldn't get caller id or call waiting without starting to really increase my bill.

There are features I wouldn't have paid for with my old phone company that I get for free with Vonage, so even if my Vonage price were to equal my old companies price I find Vonage a better value.

Furthermore I think people tend to discount long distance if they don't make a lot of calls regularly. But a lot of people only make long distance calls at certain times of the year and they end up paying a premium.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

scerruti wrote:
I would suspect that if your costs are that close you didn't have a lot of additional features on your Verizon line.

Correct. Non-listed and non-published number (there is a difference), plus call waiting. Got an answering machine so we didn't need voice mail. Couldn't care less about 3 way calling, etc. Caller ID is a nice feature, but not mission critical in our household. For long distance, we used the AT&T prepaid cards from Sams Club which worked to around 3-cents per minute.

For those who want all the features and spend many hours talking long distance, Vonage is a better deal. But for those of us who want just regular unlimited local service, call waiting, and the occasional long distance call, there really isn't any savings unless you count the fee saved from the unpublished/unlisted number. Without the extra fee for unpublished/unlisted number, Verizon and Vonage are in a dead heat price-wise (excluding long distance) now that they're collecting all the taxes/fees.

 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: tax Reply with quote Back to top

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:21 am    Post subject: Tax Included Reply with quote Back to top

Hello, in reply to Ezco's question, Yes the VAT (Tax) is included in that £7.99/mo, we dont have to pay additional regulatory fees, not yet anyway!!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Tax Included Reply with quote Back to top

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Hello, in reply to Ezco's question, Yes the VAT (Tax) is included in that £7.99/mo, we dont have to pay additional regulatory fees, not yet anyway!!


That's very nice, indeed!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: Another Tax! Reply with quote Back to top

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I agree that taxes on POTS and Voip cancel each other and Voip wins on lower net cost.

Yes, but the cost differential between POTS and Voip is quickly narrowing. Not counting long distance, which we don't do all that much of these days, the Vonage phone bill is now within $5 of my old Verizon bill.


While Verizon does offer a "low cost" POTS line, it doesn't have any features, like call waiting, 3 way calling, call forwarding, simul-ring, etc. It most definitely doesn't have free long distance in the US, Canada, etc.

A comparable plan with Comcast POTS, without the long distance feature, was about $60 for us (one line). We're paying !$28 for Vonage. I should bring up legal action against Vonage for lying to me. They say I'll save "up to 50%". I'm saving ~56%.

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SuCh InFoRMATiVe DiScUsSiON hErE. At LeAsT you guys aRe PayIng A Lot LesS ComParEd to tHosE whO are StiLL stuck up With tHoSe whO are Hesitant on Voip services. I know some PeoPle who are wisHing they couLd get rid of TeLephone service. There is this one company that had them on a contract, they could not port over their number to Vonage and they are paying over $90 just for the phone service alone (I should remind myself to ask if the TAX is already included or not). The company told them if they'd discontinue their contract they need to pay $200 for a disconnection fee..how about that?! Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I kept my old POTS line and just dumped long distance, when I signed up for Vonage, and the FUSE charge and other fees have been going down on the POTS line while they were going up on the Vonage service. The POTS line is now 6 dollars less per month than Vonage.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

As an early adopter of Vonage (as well as an overall technology geek) I've been very much pleased with the savings that we've enjoyed over the last 5 years. The price was right and the aggravation minimal.

90% of the issues that I've had with the service has been due to the cable company's connection and/or hardware (and they didn't think we'd notice when they gave us crappy broadband service).

But overall it's been great. Invited lots of friends and family to join, enjoyed telling people on the phone that our voices were being carried over the internet, not those old crappy copper lines that have been paid for so many times over... For me it was a bit of a religious experience. Being in my mid 30's now, it always bugged me to hear abuses from the big utilities such as forcing customers to pay for touch-tone years after the technology was bought and paid for. Nothing but abuses. The fact that a call to nearby towns cost me more than if I called cross-country. Just doesn't/didn't add up.

For me it was the enjoyment of "stick it to the greedy monopolies" and cutting the cord of Verizon, the grand-daughter to the baby-Bells.

We'll the stakes have changed. I could put up with inconsistant service when my bill was $25'ish. On Sunday, I got my new billing- $30.79.

It all makes sense now. Vonage pushes forward with a grass-roots marketing campaign (an excellent one at that) and picks up all of the POTS dissidents. They partner with companies like Linksys to package Vonage with hardware. Then they go public... a bad bad thing. The fate of decisions, those days of risk that made Vonage such a unique company are gone, so are the benefits of reasonable pricing. Do you think Vonage is going to battle the FCC being public now? I don't think so.

They should battle the FCC on this one. It's ridiculous to force a fledgling technology to subsidize running some crappy DSL line out to the middle of the country (an example here), especially since there is still spare bandwidth on the majority of the fiber backbone in the US. It's absurd and an insult to our intelligence. Why is the cable TV bill so high? Was this also a result of the wonderful assistance provided by the Universal Service Fee. It reeks of mismanagment, unaccountability, and overall just plain abuse. I'm keeping a close eye on how Vonage handles these recent developments.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Another Tax! Reply with quote Back to top

rebus wrote:
jim28277 wrote:
I agree that taxes on POTS and Voip cancel each other and Voip wins on lower net cost.

Yes, but the cost differential between POTS and Voip is quickly narrowing. Not counting long distance, which we don't do all that much of these days, the Vonage phone bill is now within $5 of my old Verizon bill.

I'm reasonably happy with Vonage, but even after nearly 2 years as a subscriber, my wife and I still find its quirks annoying-- occasionally sketchy sound quality (popping, echos, the screeching "touch tone" sound generated by certain female voices which has been discussed in this forum extensively, etc.) inbound callers getting "all circuits are busy" during peak talk hours, occasional phantom calls (phone rings, caller ID shows nothing, nothing but dead air or a weird tone upon answering), call waiting beep/click/clunk that is so intrusive that it cuts out the other party for 1-2 seconds... that kind of stuff. Not nearly as smooth as the old Verizon copper service.

I didn't mind so much putting up with service that had some quirks and was a few marks below PSTN quality in order to save money, but that savings is beginning to vanish.



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'popping, echos, the screeching "touch tone" sound generated by certain female voices which has been discussed in this forum extensively'

This can usually be troubleshooted. The new Vista 390 desk phone from Bell here in Canada caused some similar annoying noises. I brought it back asap cause it drove me nuts and went with a refurbished ol' school Northerm Telecom Vista 390, which works flawlessly. You might want to look at some of the new adapters too. I bought a PAP2 from bestbuy to compare it to my new vt2442, and the vt2442 is much better overall.. less quirky.

The call waiting issue you mentioned is normal for me. My previous landline in fact was worse for this... cutting the conversation out longer then the call waiting on my Vonage line. I think this depends on the telco provider for comparison.

I also get much better Voip now that I updated the firmware on my wrt54gs v2.0 router and setup QoS for Voip packets.

I guess the moral of the story is, if you like tickering with your hardware, you can get Vonage to work as well as a land line, from my experience anyway.

That being said, I personally haven't experienced the other issues you did, such as the phantom calls and network busy message. However, I've only been on Vonage for just over 2 months now, so we'll see. If I did experience them, I can certainly see how that would be annoying Neutral
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