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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: Using Dial-Up Internet access on a Vonage hardwired setup. Reply with quote Back to top

Greetings:

I have my Vonage hardwired for use thru out my house. My question is this. How or can I use Vonage to dial my backup Dial-up Internet provider using a computers Modem? I get Dial tone at the jack and the modem DOES dial out but I cannot get a connection to my Dial-Up ISP for some odd reason.....Wondering if Vonage is compatible with a dial-up setup for internet...Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You could turn the computer with the dial up modem into a router by using the windows xp internet connection sharing and the running the router through that. You should be able to manually config a hard network ip to the ata.
But thats alot of work for something that may not work that well.

gizmoproject.com is a open Voip provider and they also have a softphone client. This may acually work since it uses different codecs.

Although I sudder at the though you could also try skype.com software. They use a closed network propietary software and you could not use your own adapter. (vonage is closed but they use standard sip equipment)(gizmo is open)

Many people speak of great results on the skype forum. Calling from the airplane etc even with the latency. etc..

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The above is great information, however for what I want to do It is not what I am looking for....What I need to be able to do is dial out over my Vonage connection with a stand alone (not connected to the network) computer via that computers modem, to get online with my Dial-Up provider....Is it possible to do that?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Just wondering why you would want to do that??? You must have a broadband connection, if you're using Vonage. Why would you want to use dial-up? I'm not being a smart alec, just trying to understand the problem...

I know it's possible to dial out - since my fax machine does (virtually) the same thing you're describing wanting to do.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The Computer I want to do this with is in another room of the house. I have tried connecting via my wireless network but I am too far from the wireless router to get any kind of good solid connection. So I always used THAT computer via dial-up when I had my POTS line. Now with Vonage I can get the modem to dial the ISP but I the modem can't get a connection onto my ISP's network...Just wondering if the two (Dial-up Modem and Vonage) are compatible Or should I get the POTS line reconnected..... Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Sory I thought I hinted at that.

If you have windows XP (home or pro) you can walk throughthe Internet Connection Sharing wizard.

This will set the internet connection to be routed through your PC

Why? Becuase the dial up modem is attached to your computer.

They do have routers which share the internet using dial up odems for the office in which the modem attached directly to the router instead of the computer but they cost too much.

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The above is great information, however for what I want to do It is not what I am looking for....What I need to be able to do is dial out over my Vonage connection with a stand alone (not connected to the network) computer via that computers modem, to get online with my Dial-Up provider....Is it possible to do that?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It is possible, TiVos connect in this way for example. However it would require slowing the speed down on your modem, the lower speed required may not be supported by your ISP or you might feel that performance is unacceptable.

http://global.ihug.co.nz/help/dialup/modem/index.html

Has some information that will help you get started. Reading some of the TiVo posts may provide additional information.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: How I solved the problem....Simple really.... Reply with quote Back to top

I solved the problem by running a second router in My office and connecting off the main router at the DSL modem. Connected both Computers in My office by using the 2nd Router as a switch/HUB and Viola!!!! No need to worry about getting Vonage to work on Dial up, Which I still find puzzling since my Fax Machine dials out and connects without a problem...Oh Well, Thanks to everyone who responded, we tried...this is a better solution for me.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: How I solved the problem....Simple really.... Reply with quote Back to top

chinka01 wrote:
No need to worry about getting Vonage to work on Dial up, Which I still find puzzling since my Fax Machine dials out and connects without a problem.


Most Group 3 Fax machines run at a maximum speed of 14.4kb/s, with a fall-back to 9.6kb/s (or lower). Your computers modem is probably trying to connect at speeds between 33.6kb/s and 57.6kb/s.

The faster the speeds get, the more susceptible they are to artifacts from the lossy data compression used in Voip connections. And as Voip tends to assume you have a working IP network anyhow, Voip connections aren't really designed with analogue data transfer beyond about 14.4kb/s in mind anyhow (and even then, only to support legacy devices like fax machines).

Now if you want to try to surf the modern web at 14.4kb/s, feel free, but I highly suggest running Firefox with AdBlock and FlashBlock enabled, and even then the slowness would probably drive you insane Smile.

(And yes, I go back far enough that I remember making connections at 300bps (and once even at 110bps, although that was already pretty much out by the time I really hit the scene). I'm not sure how I survived. 300bps is only 30 characters per second, so it took more than two seconds to print a single line of text to the display Razz).

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