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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: adaptor questions (pap2 vs telephone adaptor) Reply with quote Back to top

I have a few questions about phone adaptors that have been buzzing around in my head. I probably knew the answers to these questions at some point but have either forgotten or never really understood.
1.What is the difference between a pap2 phone adaptor (Linksys PAP2) and a telephone adaptor (linksys rt31p2 or rtp300).
2. Is there any advantage of a pap2 unit over a phone adaptor unit?
3. Is the Motorola VT2442 the replacement adaptor for the linksys rt31p2?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Well . . . I'll take a crack of most of your question.

The R31P2 is a broadband ROUTER with phone adapter built-in. The PAP2 is JUST a phone adapter. Generally, you would install the PAP2 BEHIND an existing router that you already have. There is no network OUT connection on the PAP2, so your network essentially dead ends at the PAP2. So one cable would come OUT of your router into your PAP2 and a different cable would come OUT of a different port on your router into your PC.

If you don't have a router, you might consider one of the combo, though you should do good research and decide if that is best or if you would be better off with one of the stand-alone routers that are often recommended on this forum for their quality of service functions and then a plain adapter, like the PAP2, behind it.

If you already have a router but end up with a combo Vonage device anyway, you can either replace your router with the Vonage combo or put the combo in with your existing router, though the later opens up some other configuration issues that you will find talked about in depth here.

I'm of the "don't put all your eggs in one basket" school, and, as such, don't like many combo devices, and the Vonage devices are no exception. I'm biased because it is how my own system is setup, but then again, my own system works well -- I've got a Linksys WRT54G with third party (Thibor) firmware then a Vonage Linksys PAP2 phone adapter. Works great for me.

The advantage of PAP2 or other plain adapter vs. combo is A) You can pick the best router for your situation (may be, but likely not the router that would be part of the combo) and B) If one part of the combo breaks (either the router or the phone adapter), it is easier to replace just the broken piece.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thank you RGNOK. That's exactly what I thought. One of the reasons I asked about the pap2 is because I read on another post that someone preferred to travel with the pap2 and I thought that perhaps I was missing something. Let me confirm my thinking, if you travel to a hotel with a pap2, then you can use the pap2 to connect to Vonage or you can connect your pc to the hotel's internet without using the pap2 adaptor but you can't do both at the same time (without a router). Am I correct in my thinking?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

In fact I travel with my PAP2 -- you are pretty much right, but for clarity:

Using your PAP2 OR PC in the hotel room assumes that it is WIRED high speed access and no logon is required.

If the hotel has WIRELESS access in the room or requires some sort of sign-on before you can use the connection, you can do a couple of things:

If it is WIRELESS and your laptop has both wireless card and WIRED network jack, you can connect to the hotel wireless then use INTERNET CONNECTION SHARING to share the laptop wifi connection -- then use a CROSSOVER network cable and connect the PAP2 to your laptop's wired jack (basically you're using your laptop as a router).

If hotel connection is WIRED and requires some sort of sign-on, you will either need a router or you will need your laptop to have TWO wired jacks (and then do the same Internet Connection Sharing trick from above).

So . . . bottom line is, PAP2 can work in a hotel and there are a number of different ways that it might be done, depending on the exact setup at the hotel. These days, if you have wireless and wired connections on your laptop and you travel with laptop, PAP2, and a crossover cable, you can usually get it done. Of course, to cover one more base, you can add a second wired jack with a USB or PCMCIA card for under $50, so you will always have two wired jacks and wireless on your laptop -- covering most situations you might encounter!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thank you your prompt replies. I posted a further question under another topic but since you are monitoring this topic, here is my other question....

My current home Vonage setup is cable modem----hawking hbb1----------RT31p2----------PC. I connect my existing house phone wiring to the phone connections on the RT31p2. Everything works fine.

I want to use another phone adaptor when I'm travelling (too much trouble to take the the rt31p2 out of the home configuration). Here are my questions.
1. Can I have 2 phone adaptors addressed to my one single line Vonage accout?
2. Can I use 2 adaptors at the same time (i.e. leave the home adaptor connected and connect a second adaptor at my hotel when travelling)?

thanks again for the prompt answers

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Happy to help.

1) Nope, no way to have multiple adapters with one account (it would be nice, though Vonage would have to have some way to "disable" one of them so only one would work at a time). That prevents people from using one account / phone line in multiple places at the same time.

2) I think answer to #1 pretty much answers number 2.

This is, of course, the limitation to traveling with Vonage -- if you take it with you, the place you took it FROM (home, office) is now without a phone. If you're solo, that's no concern, but if there is anyone back at home or the office, they might frown on suddenly having no phone!
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