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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

One of the big one-day drops came on the news that "Citron reiterates Vonage spending plan." See

http://www.wallst.net/news/news.asp?Source=REUTERSNEWS&id=4022

So any cut in ad spending is coming in 2007, well after Vonage will have blown through most of its IPO money.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The link you posted is from June. The VON keynote was two weeks ago.

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Citron also said that Vonage no longer needs to spend inordinate amounts of its cash on marketing, because it has achieved its goal of establishing a national (or global) brand.

"You can walk into any room, do the 'Woo-Hoo' song and people know it's Vonage," Citron said.


Vonage alive and well, Citron says

[EDIT: Removed a significant amount of this post as argumentative and possibly in violation of the Vonage Stock rules.

I would like to remind others, as I have reminded myself, to read the rules, especially those that prohibit "calls to action" and require facts with posts.]

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

scerruti wrote:
"You can walk into any room, do the 'Woo-Hoo' song and people know it's Vonage," Citron said.


Everyone recognized the pets.com sock puppet too.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Did Pets.com have 2MM (and growing) monthly paying customers?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Edge wrote:
Did Pets.com have 2MM (and growing) monthly paying customers?


No, but they also didn't have quarterly losses of $74MM (and growing - up from $63.6MM the previous quarter)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:17 am    Post subject: Re: A Hopeless Stock ...Maybe... but Reply with quote Back to top

MikeH wrote:
Some of the opinions in this thread are just not correct.

Check the Link below. A good article [...]
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business

Like my Daddy used to say:
"Opinions are like a**holes, Everybody has one, Some just smell better than others"


But yours produce a lot of big smelllly gases...

I really wanted to read your link... but it kinda disappeared.

Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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trillian wrote:
Vonage doesn't use TCP/IP (generally speaking streaming media doesn't).


Rolling Eyes

Isn't Voip inherently a peer-to-peer technology because of its use of?... TCP/IP... My router, I believe only speaks in Internet Protocol to my ISP, which in turn speaks to the Internet using, I suppose Internet Protocol as well. If you are really unlucky, and the person you are calling also uses Vonage, then you are in for the long IP ride.

Voip = Voice Over Internet Protocol ?


Um, there is more going on over the internet than TCP/IP. TCP/IP is one protocol - which you would be foolish to use for Voip. Voip typically uses RTP via UDP.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:12 pm    Post subject: Re: A Hopeless Stock ...Maybe... but Reply with quote Back to top

DigitalVoice wrote:
MikeH wrote:
Some of the opinions in this thread are just not correct.

Check the Link below. A good article [...]
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business

Like my Daddy used to say:
"Opinions are like a**holes, Everybody has one, Some just smell better than others"


But yours produce a lot of big smelllly gases...

I really wanted to read your link... but it kinda disappeared.

Rolling Eyes

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DV ...I guess the newspaper passed some gas on that article but I did find it pretty easily on the web.
try this link:

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/09/27/1936186.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

codyprime wrote:
DigitalVoice wrote:
trillian wrote:
Vonage doesn't use TCP/IP (generally speaking streaming media doesn't).


Rolling Eyes

Isn't Voip inherently a peer-to-peer technology because of its use of?... TCP/IP... My router, I believe only speaks in Internet Protocol to my ISP, which in turn speaks to the Internet using, I suppose Internet Protocol as well. If you are really unlucky, and the person you are calling also uses Vonage, then you are in for the long IP ride.

Voip = Voice Over Internet Protocol ?


Um, there is more going on over the internet than TCP/IP. TCP/IP is one protocol - which you would be foolish to use for Voip. Voip typically uses RTP via UDP.


Ahhh. The UDP that is managed (throttled) by most ISP?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

DigitalVoice wrote:
codyprime wrote:
DigitalVoice wrote:
trillian wrote:
Vonage doesn't use TCP/IP (generally speaking streaming media doesn't).


Rolling Eyes

Isn't Voip inherently a peer-to-peer technology because of its use of?... TCP/IP... My router, I believe only speaks in Internet Protocol to my ISP, which in turn speaks to the Internet using, I suppose Internet Protocol as well. If you are really unlucky, and the person you are calling also uses Vonage, then you are in for the long IP ride.

Voip = Voice Over Internet Protocol ?


Um, there is more going on over the internet than TCP/IP. TCP/IP is one protocol - which you would be foolish to use for Voip. Voip typically uses RTP via UDP.


Ahhh. The UDP that is managed (throttled) by most ISP?


My point is, Vonage and other Voip mechanisms for the most part do not use TCP/IP, but UDP. TCP/IP as a protocol is not appropriate for streaming audio content, especially 'real-time' interactive content (i.e. phone conversations). Your post implied before that Vonage used TCP/IP for its streaming.
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