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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Echo on Outbound Audio Reply with quote Back to top

Green Valley, AZ
Cox Cable
Download speed: 2418064 bps
Upload speed: 514984 bps
Motorola SB5120 Modem
Linksys WRT54GP2 Adapter
Modem ---> Adapter ---> PC

I receive complaints of an echo from almost everyone I speak with. I am primarily using a Panasonic KX-TG5583 cordless phone but when informed of the echo, I've switched to a wired phone with no improvement in quality.

I've included the Voip test results below. I ran the test several times and noticed that the QoS is consistently low. I set the QoS in my router relatively high at 256 kb/s. What else can I do?

Speed test statistics
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Download speed: 2418064 bps
Upload speed: 514984 bps
Quality of service: 30 %
Download test type: socket
Upload test type: socket
Maximum download pause: 118 ms
Average download pause: 14 ms
Minimum round trip time to server: 98 ms
Average round trip time to server: 101 ms

Voip test statistics
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Jitter: you --> server: 4.7 ms
Jitter: server --> you: 8.2 ms
Packet loss: you --> server: 0.0 %
Packet loss: server --> you: 0.0 %
Packet discards: 0.0 %
Packets out of order: 0.0 %
Number of supported Voip lines: 8
Estimated MOS score: 3.9
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Please run a comparison test at www.testyourvoip.com (test call to Boston) and post the detailed results here.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:52 pm    Post subject: More Information on Echo Problem Reply with quote Back to top

Here's the results of the suggested test.

MOS Analysis From You TO Boston
Media Quality
MOS
4.0 / 5.0
(Best with G.711 is 4.4)


Degradation Sources
Codec 0.57 55.7%
Latency 0.00 0.0%
Packet Discards 0.46 44.3%
Packet Loss 0.00 0.0%
Codec G.711 (PCM at 64kbps,
20ms RTP payload,
80kbps IP BW)
Round-Trip
Latency 171 ms
Packet Discards 2.3%
Packet Loss 0.0%
Loss Periods
Min: 20 ms
Avg: 60 ms
Max: 120 ms
Burst Loss
Jitter
Min: 0 ms
Avg: 6 ms
Max: 105 ms
Signaling Quality
Post-Dial Delay 109 ms
Call Setup Time 109 ms
Media Delay 266 ms

MOS Analysis FROM Boston To You

Media Quality
MOS
4.4 / 5.0
(Best with G.711 is 4.4)


Degradation Sources
Codec 0.58 100.0%
Latency 0.00 0.0%
Packet Discards 0.00 0.0%
Packet Loss 0.00 0.0%
Codec G.711 (PCM at 64kbps,
20ms RTP payload,
80kbps IP BW)
Round-Trip
Latency 171 ms
Packet Discards 0.0%
Packet Loss 0.0%
Loss Periods
Min: 0 ms
Avg: 0 ms
Max: 0 ms
No Loss
Jitter
Min: 4 ms
Avg: 6 ms
Max: 20 ms
Signaling Quality
Post-Pickup Delay 133 ms
Call Setup Time 136 ms
Media Delay 167 ms
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

If it is truly echo, then it is not a problem with your connection to the internet. That would only cause choppy audio, not echo.

I would try and move the Vonage adapter as far away from any other electronic devices as possible to see if that decreases the echo at all. I would also make sure the phone cords that you are using are using are not near and electrical cables or electronic devices. I know that when I plug my Vonage device into the same surge protector as my PC monitor, I will start getting interference on my Vonage line, which leads me to believe that the Vonage devices are extremely susceptible to EM interference. If that still doesn't work, I would say you may need to contact Vonage. Ask them to swap the # to port 2 on your device and test to see if it may be a problem with the port. If this doesn't resolve the issue you will probably need to try a new device.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I agree. Overall, the Voip results are very good. Packet discards outbound are surprisingly high for such a good Voip score, but that wouldn't explain the echo.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Echo Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for the information, I'm going to try to isolate the adapter to see if that effects the echo. If not, I'll call Vonage and switch to the other port. If I still have an echo after all of that, I guess I'll have to replace the adapter
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

if you do hear an echo after checking the cables and switching ports-have the Vonage support tech adjust your tx gain levels or check to make sure the echo property of your device is set off (these are settings you don't see)
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