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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:35 pm    Post subject: Vonage, iChatAV and Licksys WRT54G Reply with quote Back to top

Does anyone know how to reset my Linksys WRT54G router and my Linksys RTP300 router so that I may run Voip and iChatAV concurrently. I believe the problem is that both applications want port 5060.

I have a Cox Cable modem <-> Linksys WRT54G router <-> Linksys RTP300 router and then the phone and iMac are hooked up to the RTP300.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:29 am    Post subject: Voange routers don't use port 5060 Reply with quote Back to top

I called Vonage and spoke to a supervisor that was network savy. He explained to me that the Vonage router only uses ports from 10,000 UDP and 10050 to 10150 for audio. Occcasioanlly they use ports 69 and 21 for upgrades but they're rarely used. He also explained that the Voip router only uses ports temporarily and releases them once the voice communication (the phone call) ends.

The Vonage Forum goes on about 5060 port conflicts but based on this conversation the Forum advice appears to be wrong. I am guessing that since my iMac is behind the Vonage router, the 5060 UDP port is returned to the Vonage router and not my iMac. I'm going to buy a switch, install it in front of the Vonage RTP300 router, and then install the iMac and Vonage router to the switch. I'll see if that solves the problem. I took the Vonage router out of the loop and hooked the iMac directly to the WRT54G router, but this didn't seem to solve the problem.

For reference I am now using the Linksys WRT54G v4 with 4.30.5 firmware. I was using a WRT54G v6 when this problem popped up. Maybe the v6 router is the problem.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: Voange routers don't use port 5060 Reply with quote Back to top

russa wrote:
The Vonage Forum goes on about 5060 port conflicts but based on this conversation the Forum advice appears to be wrong.


No, ports 5060 and 5061 are Vonage's SIP message ports. This includes everything for registering with Vonage's servers to setting up the RTP stream for the call. Vonage re-registers with the server every 20 seconds using ports 5060 or 5061 so whoever told you that it didn't use these ports was totally incorrect. Since Vonage is re-requesting date through that port every 20 seconds, the link between port 5060-5061 and the Vonage device in your WRT54G's routing table would never expire since the default timeout is more than 20 seconds.(Which is why Vonage re-requests so often, so it can keep that channel open so it can send incoming calls to your device.) If your router is not able to handle more than one application using the same port(I don't think most consumer grade routers are) or you can't change the port of one of the applications using that port, you will probably see conflicts between these two.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Voange routers don't use port 5060 Reply with quote Back to top

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I took the Vonage router out of the loop and hooked the iMac directly to the WRT54G router, but this didn't seem to solve the problem.


Did you do this by disconnecting the Vonage router completely or simply by moving the iMAC to a WRT54G port? If it's the former and the iMAC still doesn't work, then I don't see how a new switch is going to solve the problem.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Voange routers don't use port 5060 Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for the info on ports 5060 and 5061.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Voange routers don't use port 5060 Reply with quote Back to top

Yep, you're right about the switch, however, it does allow me to DHCP off my main router and now I can share files between the 3 computers in the house.

Apparently I have one of the oldest Vonage routers delviered to customers. It's a Linksys RTP300. It didn't allow me to turn-off DHCP. I suspect the firmware is a very old vintage, and is not robust to support a multi-media networking environment. The guy at Vonage said, "well if the telephone works then we're fulfiling our service committment". Great attitude, huh? Perhaps the new Linksys PAP2v2 firmware is more robust. I talked to a guy in WI using Vonage but with the new PAP2 Voip router; and he's not having any problems.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Voange routers don't use port 5060 Reply with quote Back to top

russa wrote:
Yep, you're right about the switch, however, it does allow me to DHCP off my main router and now I can share files between the 3 computers in the house.

Apparently I have one of the oldest Vonage routers delviered to customers. It's a Linksys RTP300. It didn't allow me to turn-off DHCP. I suspect the firmware is a very old vintage, and is not robust to support a multi-media networking environment. The guy at Vonage said, "well if the telephone works then we're fulfiling our service committment". Great attitude, huh? Perhaps the new Linksys PAP2v2 firmware is more robust. I talked to a guy in WI using Vonage but with the new PAP2 Voip router; and he's not having any problems.


PAP2 is not a router, it is a telephone adapter. No routing capabilities at all. On the back of the PAP2 you will find an Internet port and 2 phone ports, nothing more. Also, it is not a new router it was already replaced by the D-Link VTA which means it was relatively old. The only router that Vonage is currently offering is the Motorola VT2442 which has many problems of its own.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Voange routers don't use port 5060 Reply with quote Back to top

Yep, you're right, my bad. I knew the PAP2 was not a router. That's "great news" about the other router. I might buy the PAP2 phone adapter and test it out though. There's a guy I've been exchanging messages in WI that has a PAP2 and is using Vonage with Apple iChatAV successfully.

I'll post if I get it working.
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