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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:15 pm    Post subject: Portforwarding behind two routers Reply with quote Back to top

Here is the configuration.

I have Cable 10meg service with Charter. My modem is connected to the Vonage router, linksys rtp300, which in turn is connected to my belkin wireless G router.

Whenever I setup a static ip and try to portforward it never works. No matter how many guides I have read or followed I can never get it to work.

When I connect directly from my modem everything works fine, So I would appreciate any help.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It probably isn't going to work all that well, simply because you are trying to port-forward through two consumer-grade routers.

However, here's what you have to do.

1. Set the Belkin up with a fixed IP address in the RTP300's network.
2. Forward your port on the Belkin to the RTP300.
3. Set your server up with a fixed IP address in the Belkin's network.
4. Forward your port on the RTP300 to the server.

That way, unsolitcited packets hit your RTP300, who forwards it on the same port to the Belkin, who forwards it on the same port to your server.

Be sure to make great sacrifices to the Network Gods. Or get a good quality router, put it in FRONT of the RTP300 (Modem -> Good Quality Router -> RTP300 and Server) so the RTP300 and the server are peers, and the RTP300 is only doing Vonage work.

You can also try the Belkin "out front". Since a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, you might as well simpify your LAN anyway.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

NateHoy wrote:
1. Set the Belkin up with a fixed IP address in the RTP300's network.
2. Forward your port on the Belkin to the RTP300.
3. Set your server up with a fixed IP address in the Belkin's network.
4. Forward your port on the RTP300 to the server.

That way, unsolitcited packets hit your RTP300, who forwards it on the same port to the Belkin, who forwards it on the same port to your server.

That's not making much sense right now...

Did you mean these?
2. Forward your port on the RTP300 to the Belkin.
4. Forward your port on the Belkin to the server.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

As I understand it, this is the network.

Modem -> RTP300 -> Belkin -> Server

In order to support port forwarding on a permanent basis, RTP300->Belkin and Belkin->Server will each need a fixed IP address.

Let's say the RTP300 is on its default 192.168.15.x subnet, and the Belkin is on, say, 192.168.1.x. Let's also assume that the port to forward is port 8081. The address ending in .200 for each subnet is assumed to be outside the normal DHCP assignment range for both routers (so the routers don't accidentally give out those addresses).

1. The BELKIN would be configured with a fixed IP of 192.168.15.200.
2. The RTP300 would be configured to forward port 8081 to 192.168.15.200.
3. The SERVER would be configured with a fixed IP of 192.168.1.200.
4. The BELKIN would be configured to forward port 8081 to 192.168.1.200.

Any traffic coming in from the modem on port 8081 would be received by the RTP300, which forwards it to the Belkin, which in turn forwards it to the Server.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

There is a simpler solution requiring only 1 port forward:

The wireless router should be configured to be a switch and act only as a wireless access point. The Vonage router should be the DHCP server and router. Connect the Belkin wireless using a numbered port to a numbered port on the RTP300 (no usage of WAN port on the Belkin).

The Belkin needs to have a static IP on the same subnet as the RTP300. If the RTP300 is 192.168.15.1, then the Belkin needs to be 192.168.15.X.

Configure your server to have a fixed IP and setup port forwarding on the RTP300 to forward to the IP of the server. The Belkin does not need to do anything, because the server PC is on the same subnet as the RTP300. The Belkin simply is a pass through at this point.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That also works very well as a configuration. Though you implied it, I think it bears mentioning that you want to turn off the DHCP on the Belkin, so the two devices do not each try to hand out IP addresses.

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