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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:41 am    Post subject: Do Hawking and DLink broadband boosters improve inbound call Reply with quote Back to top

I've seen a few posts with people using the hawking or d-link broadband boosters to improve their Voip call quality. I believe I read that these broadband boosters only work on outbound traffic.

I am having a problem mostly with incoming calls not coming through. And I do have choppy sounding calls from time to time. Could these devices potentially help my problems? Even the incoming calls problem?

Thanks in advance for any advice.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You would probably be better off setting up a QOS router, using DD-WRT firmware you can make a cheap router a powerfull QOS router.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Tom's Networking says no;

Tom's Networking wrote:
Unlike other more general QoS approaches, the HBB1 won't do anything for downlink traffic and can't differentiate among users. So if you're looking for something to limit the bandwidth a specific application or person can use, the HBB1 isn't for you.


In reality slight inbound performance improvements should be noticed during a call. The fact that the outbound requests and acknowledgements will be delayed is likely to slow the transmissions from the remote servers providing slightly more bandwidth for Voip.

Unless you have very low incoming bandwidth I would not expect this device or a router with QoS to solve any problems. Additionally since the effect would primarily be noticed as a delay in acknowledgements I would not expect quality to improve in the first part of a call.

My suggestion is that you run the speed tests and post the results with your network configuration and see if there are any recommendations from the forum.

You can learn more about QoS on NateHoy's page Implementing QoS.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Scerruti is correct. The Hawking and D-link unit will only improve outbound quality, which is where my issue was. I bought the DI-102 and my outbound is great now.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

scerruti wrote:


My suggestion is that you run the speed tests and post the results with your network configuration and see if there are any recommendations from the forum.

You can learn more about QoS on NateHoy's page Implementing QoS.


The results of my speed test are:
Download speed is: 3.26Mbps
Upload speed is: 344 kbps
Quality of Service: 63%
Round Trip Time: 33 ms
Max Pause: 68 ms

I have Comcast Cable Internet
Linksys BEFSR41 V3 Router
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Port forwarding is enabled for all of the ports recommended on the Vonage website
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Please post the detailed results. Your QoS of 63% indicates that problems exist but the detailed results will provide further information.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Please post the detailed results. Your QoS of 63% indicates that problems exist but the detailed results will provide further information.


MOS Analysis From You TO Boston
MOS
4.2/5.0
(Best with G.711 is 4.4)
Degradation Sources
Codec 0.58 73.9%
Latency 0.00 0.0%
Packet Discards 0.20 26.1%
Packet Loss 0.00 0.0%

Codec
G.711 (PCM at 64kbps,
20ms RTP payload,
80kbps IP BW)

Round-Trip Latency
108ms

Packet Discards 0.8%

Packet Loss 0.0%

Loss Periods
Min: 20 ms
Avg: 20 ms
Max: 20 ms
Random Loss

Jitter
Min: 0 ms
Avg: 5 ms
Max: 34 ms

Singal Quality
Post-Dial Delay 47 ms
Call Setup Time 63 ms
Media Delay 141 ms



MOS Analysis FROM Boston To You
MOS
4.4/5.0
(Best with G.711 is 4.4)
Degradation Sources
Codec 0.57 96.8%
Latency 0.00 0.0%
Packet Discards 0.20 3.2%
Packet Loss 0.00 0.0%

Codec
G.711 (PCM at 64kbps,
20ms RTP payload,
80kbps IP BW)

Round-Trip Latency
108ms

Packet Discards 0.1%

Packet Loss 0.0%

Loss Periods
Min: 20 ms
Avg: 20 ms
Max: 20 ms
Random Loss

Jitter
Min: 4 ms
Avg: 6 ms
Max: 27 ms

Singal Quality
Post-Dial Delay 54 ms
Call Setup Time 70 ms
Media Delay 89 ms
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

kbfresh wrote:
scerruti wrote:
Please post the detailed results. Your QoS of 63% indicates that problems exist but the detailed results will provide further information.


MOS Analysis From You TO Boston
MOS
4.2/5.0
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Those numbers look ok. FYI, you do not need to enable any port forwarding.

Are you running any P2P applications such as WinMX or Bittorent?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'm going to go on a different tack here.

What Vonage device are you running, and what firmware version is it using?

Dropped incoming calls can be caused by a number of things. Some of the older firmwares on the Vonage devices caused all sorts of issues with dropped calls and choppy audio, especially on the RTP300 and WRTP54G units (I have a WRTP54G).

The WRTP54G is especially guilty in this because it has an issue with certain firmware upgrades, and is shipped with a really old firmware version.

http://vonage.nmhoy.net/upgrade.html

EDIT: Just noticed your post referring to your PAP2. Sorry. Wink

Still, it is worth checking the firmware revision of the device, if you can, and seeing if it is the most recent. I don't know how to do that on a PAP2.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

NateHoy wrote:
I'm going to go on a different tack here.

What Vonage device are you running, and what firmware version is it using?

EDIT: Just noticed your post referring to your PAP2. Sorry. Wink

Still, it is worth checking the firmware revision of the device, if you can, and seeing if it is the most recent. I don't know how to do that on a PAP2.


The firmware version on the my PAP2 is 3.1.9c
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