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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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I just hope others understand that reply, as well as the original comment about positive vs. negative lightning. Wink

Since lightning is made of electrons, all lightning is negative. Electricity flows from negative to positive, it always has and always will.

Unless you mean lighnting made of positrons. That would be very destructive.
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No, lightning is either positive or negative. The former is far more destructive than the latter.

Here's some more info on this.

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No, lightning is either positive or negative. The former is far more destructive than the latter.

Here's some more info on this.

But the lightning is electrons (negatively charge particles) moving from negative to positive, not protons moving from positive to negative.. The article does say the ground streamers are negatively charged. All lightning bolts are negatively charged.
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You're getting into semantics of physics. The simple explanation is that there IS both positive lightning and negative lightning, the former being far less common, fortunately. How a lightning bolt becomes positive or negative is really irrelevant.

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You're getting into semantics of physics. The simple explanation is that there IS both positive lightning and negative lightning, the former being far less common, fortunately. How a lightning bolt becomes positive or negative is really irrelevant.

I think you are missing the point. The positive/negative distinction in lightning only describes which side is most out of balance. The lightning itself is always negative.

One or both sides become unbalanced in charge. If the positive side is most out of balance, it is called positive lightning. If the negative side is more out of blanace, it is called negative lightning. In either case, it is the negative side that sends negatively charged particles (electrons) to the positive side, and these traveling electrons are called lightning. It is nothing more than an electro-static discharge like you have touching metal after shuffling your feet on a dry carpet, but on a much larger scale.

This is not "semantics of physics", but physical fact.
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It is, indeed, semantics, because the issue at hand is whether the lightning is negative or positive. The layman doesn't care about electrons or out of balance, etc. The important thing is whether the lightning that strikes something is either positive or negative. As the article explains, and as meteorologists will explain, positive lightning is more dangerous.

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It is, indeed, semantics, because the issue at hand is whether the lightning is negative or positive. The layman doesn't care about electrons or out of balance, etc. The important thing is whether the lightning that strikes something is either positive or negative. As the article explains, and as meteorologists will explain, positive lightning is more dangerous.

That's what I've been trying to tell you: the lighning itself is always negative. As the article explains, the streamers are negative. Positive only refers to lightning that is generated when the positive side has a higher charge than the negative side. In either case, the lightning flows from negative to positive while carrying a negative charge so any lightning that strikes you is negative.

You have completely misunderstood the article.
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No, you turned it into some overly and unnecessarily technical treatise on electrons. The average person doesn't give a rat's ass about that crap. All they care about, if they even give this topic any thought, is which lightning is worse--positive or negative--and for the sake of this geeky discussion crap, it's the former.

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No, you turned it into some overly and unnecessarily technical treatise on electrons. The average person doesn't give a rat's ass about that crap. All they care about, if they even give this topic any thought, is which lightning is worse--positive or negative--and for the sake of this geeky discussion crap, it's the former.

What you mean is that they care which lightning trigger is worse (positive or negative charge).

No matter what you say, the lightning itself is always negative.
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No, no one cares about "triggers" because they have no idea what the hell these are. Nor do people care about electrons, leaders, etc. They just care about what they have little knowledge of, that being "positive" or "negative" lightning. This is how the average person understand it all, if that.

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