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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: No Phone Svc after move WRTP54G router behind WIn2K firewall Reply with quote Back to top

Hello everyone, I have integrated my new Vonage Linksys Wireless WRTP54G router into my existing Windows network. I am using a WIndows 2000 Server with split NIC's to separate the outside world from the internal network.

I am using the wireless part of the router to connect some wireless computers behind the firewall. Everything works great. WRTP54G is configured with internal local IP address, dynamic IP and uses the Win 2000 server for dhcp relay. It is plugged into our hub via patch cable.

I did loose the phone service after I moved the router behind the firewall. I hope that all I need to do is route the Vonage phone ports 10000-20000 through the WIndows 2000 server to the WRTP54G router.

Can someone please provide or point to instructions for where in Windows 2000 (ISA, RRA or ?) I would go and what I need to setup.

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You should not have to forward any ports to the WRTP54G. It requires only open, and not forwarded, ports.

Make sure the following ports are open:

69
123
80
5060 and 5061
10,000-20,000

That should do it. Check your firewall logs to make sure that no packets to the Vonage device are being blocked or discarded by the firewall.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks Nate, you confirmed my thinking.

I'm not well versed in Win 2000 Firewall. Networking is a black box to me.

Can you point me to where I go in WIn 2000 to accomplish that and what that would be called in the WIndows World.

Thanks again
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Well, frankly, neither am I. I ran 2000 for a while, but if I was going to dedicate a machine to firewall duty I'd run IPCop on Linux.

Can you plug a computer into the WRTP54G? Does that computer have Internet access? What does the status page on the WRTP54G read in terms of an Internet connection?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks again Nate, we are running a lot on that server, Backoffice Server, ISA Server, IIS Server and Exchange Server among others. We're also running Remote Access Services for VPN access. Not sure if we are using Connection Sharing.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Martinator wrote:
Thanks again Nate, we are running a lot on that server, Backoffice Server, ISA Server, IIS Server and Exchange Server among others. We're also running Remote Access Services for VPN access. Not sure if we are using Connection Sharing.


Sorry, I went back and edited my post to delete the stupid question... obviously you are not running ICS. Wink

My new questions:

Can you plug a computer into the WRTP54G? Does that computer have Internet access? What does the status page on the WRTP54G read in terms of an Internet connection?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks again Nate, Yes I have 2 computers connected wirelessly to the WRTP54G and they access the internet just fine through the WIn2K Proxy server. So that works.

Status page from router:
Firmware Version: 1.00.62
Current Time: Not Available
MAC Address: 00:13:10:AA:12:7F
Status
Login Type: DHCP
Internet IP Address: 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask: 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway: 0.0.0.0
DNS 1: 192.168.254.13 (another Win2K server)
DNS 2: 192.168.254.12 (gateway Win2k server)
DNS 3: 0.0.0.0
MTU: 1500

Under Local Network:
MAC Address: 00:13:10:AA:12:7E
IP Address: 192.168.254.15
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
DHCP Server: Disabled

Under Wireless:
Wireless Firmware Version: 1.6.0.24
MAC Address: 00:13:10:AA:12:80
Status: Enable
Mode: Mixed
SSID: eStar Home
Channel: 6
Encryption Function: Enable

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Martinator wrote:

Internet IP Address: 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask: 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway: 0.0.0.0
DNS 1: 192.168.254.13 (another Win2K server)
DNS 2: 192.168.254.12 (gateway Win2k server)
[...]

Under Voice is says Provisioning failed and Registration Proceeding


Well, there's your problem. For some reason, the Windows DHCP server is not issuing an IP address to your WRTP54G.

Question: Do you have your wire going from a LAN port on your main network to the WAN/Internet port on the WRTP54G? If you have this going to a LAN port, then the WRTP54G is acting as a switch, but the Vonage side needs Internet access on the WAN port.

All is not lost if you need to have the WRTP54G act as a switch, AND you need Vonage access.

1. Log into the Vonage router and make darned sure DHCP is turned OFF.

2. Run an Ethernet patch cable from any of the LAN ports on the Vonage router to the WAN port.

See "Configuration #3" in my article here: http://vonage.nmhoy.net/tworouters.html

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thank you Nate, I had looked at your configurations but missed that trick.

I will get a cable and try later.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I would also be VERY careful to set up your "Local Network" on the WRTP54G, which should NEVER be used in this configuration, to a different IP address range. Having LAN and WAN in the same IP address range is harmless normally, but since you are introducing a potential circular route on your network, it could get, well, ugly...

The WRTP54G is the Ouroboros snake in this configuration (a snake eating its own tail). It is using its own switch to receive Internet. This is NOT what the manufacturer intended. Normally, it feeds Internet TO the switch FROM the WAN, and that connection is soldered into the router. So, if you give it any hint that you want to route through its normal WAN->LAN link, it will. And I guarantee you won't like the results.


Yummy!

Another option, if you can justify the cost, is to turn off wireless on the WRTP54G and just use it as a Vonage device with nothing at all plugged in to it except a phone line and a regular LAN connection to its WAN port, then go out and get a cheap wireless access point or router and use that for wireless.

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