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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Kamakzie wrote:
Okay cool I disabled the wireless on the Vonage router and hooked it up the way you and I suggested. It works fine now with the exception that I can't access the Vonage router thats on 192.168.15.1 but I assume its because the WRT54GS is on 192.168.1.1. I would imagine I would no longer need to access the Vonage router anyways?


Probably not, but if you need to:

1. Plug a computer into the WRTP54G.
2. Under "Administration", turn on "Remote Administration" and set the port number you prefer (default 8080).
3. Move your computer back to the WRT54GS, and then you can simply type http://vonageip:8080 where vonageip is the IP address that your WRT54GS assigned to the WRTP54G. You can then log in normally and perform router maintenance when needed, which won't be often.

If you are running HyperWRT Thibor or DD-WRT on that WRT54GS, you can use static DHCP to assign a permanent IP address and a hostname to the Vonage router. I called mine "vonage.router" and I can access it by typing http://vonage.router:8080" from any computer attached to my WRT54G.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Okay great that worked perfectly thanks! I am a little gunshy using hacked firmwares. So I will just login to the router and find out what IP its assigned. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Your call, but my WRT54G V4 has been running aftermarket firmware (various versions of HyperWRT, currently HyperWRT Thibor) since last October with no ill effects.

As long as you don't have a V5 unit, it works great. V5 is not Linux based and cannot accept anything but the most minimal of aftermarket versions, and really isn't worth the effort.

My current uptime is only 12 days, but that's because I reloaded a newer version of the firmware. My uptime record is 90 days, and I have never, ever, had to reboot the router for any other reason than upgrades, mad scientist experiments, or rewiring.

Once you see all the new features, you'll be hooked, and you may start wondering how you got along without them. (grin)

http://www.thibor.co.uk has a list of all of the added features. Takes about 5-10 minutes to install then as long as it takes to rekey any settings you have.

The process is simple:

- Download the image appropriate for your router
- Unplug the router from the Internet
- Factory reset your router from the web interface
- Log in using the factory default password (admin/admin)
- Do the firmware upgrade to the image you downloaded
- Wait for the upgrade to complete and the router to reboot
- Do a factory reset checking the ERASE NVRAM option once it reboots
- Rekey your settings
- Plug the router back into the Internet connection

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The other thing I'd add is that you really want to upload the firmware to the router via a hardwired connection instead of wireless. It CAN be done via wireless, but you can also poke badgers with spoons -- not recommended.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

VonageTPA wrote:
... you can also poke badgers with spoons -- not recommended.


Agreed. I'd use a fork.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hmmmm tempting. So after I run this update I can actually reset the router without actually physically pulling the power plug.... cool!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Well, yeah, you could. But why would you want to? I haven't had to reset my router for anything but upgrades and closet rewirings since last October. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Okay guys I took the plunge and upgraded mine to the thibor firmware... Cool Lots of neat features. I did a domain name of vonage.router like you suggested and it worked perfectly!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:21 am    Post subject: Routing issues Reply with quote Back to top

I saw a post that mentioned "is great Vonage device as long as it doens't have to route". I am having problems with my router. As much as 3 times a day, my 4 ports don't have internet access, I have to reset the router- by using my IP and port 8080 I get onto router, save changes then my 4 ports come back up.

Could this be because I have port routing set up for my Terminal Services to work - I'm using port 3390?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Routing issues Reply with quote Back to top

Horton wrote:
I saw a post that mentioned "is great Vonage device as long as it doens't have to route". I am having problems with my router. As much as 3 times a day, my 4 ports don't have internet access, I have to reset the router- by using my IP and port 8080 I get onto router, save changes then my 4 ports come back up.

Could this be because I have port routing set up for my Terminal Services to work - I'm using port 3390?


Anything that puts a lot of load on the WRTP54G is going to make it die at some point.

The WRTP54G is equipped with a NAT connections table that is capable of holding about 2,000 connections in memory. Once that table fills up, the router refuses to make any new connections (existing connections work fine, no new ones can be created).

The WRTP54G also has an unfortunate default for turning "active" connections (connections that have not specifically been closed) to "idle" connections subject to reuse. That default is *five days*.

So, P2P applications, and many other "server" applications, tend to make and leave open a large number of connections, and expect the router to go back and clean them up from time to time. The WRTP54G can't do that cleanup effectively. Result? Router needs a reboot, frequency depending on how heavily you load it up.

Solution? Better router. Put the Vonage router behind something better, and just make the poor little thing a Vonage device.

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