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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Fastest residential internet in the country no portability Reply with quote Back to top

I live in Spearfish/Rapid City South Dakota. Our former service provider pioneered Television, Computer and Phone all being delivered over one cable connection....We have the fastest residential internet in the country. It was once known as Black Hills Fibercom but it's name has changed to Prairie Wave.....Unfortunately it's owner has changed as well....some advertising executive moron is currently at the helm...and has fired the guys that designed and implemented the network as well as a help line staff which was comprised of individuals who understood the network...software that clients use etc. etc. He's replaced these folks with gum chewing high school punks that don't know diddly....they have a script of canned answers they give you...if you don't ask a question that fits into there script then it doesn't get answered.

But enough ****...all of the above does not diminish the fact that we still have the fastest residential internet in the country. I find it rather odd that Vonage doesn't offer portability here. Very Strange. People can actually use Voip and never even think about using the Conserve Bandwidth option...in fact people can use the phone while surfing with at least TWO computers simultaneously.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Fastest residential internet in the country no portabili Reply with quote Back to top

RCD wrote:
People can actually use Voip and never even think about using the Conserve Bandwidth option...in fact people can use the phone while surfing with at least TWO computers simultaneously.

How fast is "the fastest residential internet in the country"?

I'm just using regular cable. Two computers at a time is normal, without having to consider using the bandwidth options.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:49 pm    Post subject: My speed is.... Reply with quote Back to top

5600 kbps down or 700 KB/sec. Sometimes this one is quite a bit quicker....this is the current number Speakeasy is giving me though.

560 kbps up or 70 KB/sec
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:23 am    Post subject: How is that "the fastest in the country"? Reply with quote Back to top

Using Speakeasy's LA server from here in Chicago, I'm getting 7,396 kbps down and 685 kbps up on Comcast. If I choose the local Chicago Speakeasy test server it will show 24,903 kbps down and 705 kbps up.

If I use the test here, I get the following results.


Speed test statistics
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Download speed: 14946080 bps
Upload speed: 718912 bps
Quality of service: 93 %
Download test type: socket
Upload test type: socket
Maximum download pause: 62 ms
Average download pause: 1 ms
Minimum round trip time to server: 30 ms
Average round trip time to server: 31 ms

Voip test statistics
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Jitter: you --> server: 4.1 ms
Jitter: server --> you: 9.3 ms
Packet loss: you --> server: 0.0 %
Packet loss: server --> you: 0.0 %
Packet discards: 0.0 %
Packets out of order: 0.0 %
Number of supported Voip lines: 9
Estimated MOS score: 4.0

I have 3 computers on the connection and 3 Vonage lines.

BTW: AT&T Broadband was doing the "triple play of voice/internet/phone" before they sold the cable system to Comcast. It's been out there for over 10 years. Also RCN has had it for at least 8 years that I know of.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:52 am    Post subject: Triple play? Reply with quote Back to top

Sorry old buddy but voice and phone are one thing not two...so's what your talking about is a double play, Fibercom has or was in business since 1998 and like I said before they were the FIRST sp to supply television, telephone and internet all over the same cable. Oh and by the way, I'm familiar with comcast and the speeds that you quoted are not the speeds of a residential connection....and most certainly not a comcast residential connection.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:00 am    Post subject: Correction Reply with quote Back to top

Sorry I mistyped. It was very early in the morning. It was Voice/Internet/Digital TV. AT&T Broadband offered it, and 21st Century Telecom, which was aquired by RCN, both offered it in 1997 here in Chicago.

My Comcast speeds are a residential connection. Comcast may not offer those speeds your area, but they are actually slow in comparison to what some people in Chicago that have reported on broadbandreports.com.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:14 am    Post subject: BTW: Suppporting press release Reply with quote Back to top

Here's a press release From January 1998 that Sun has out on the web talking about their work with 21st Century Telecom in Chicago and their TV/Internet/Voice offering.

Press Release - Sun & 21st Century Telecom
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Ignoring the "who has the bigger cable" issue...

The decision behind how Vonage chooses what markets to enter can be attributed to two main factors.
  1. The demographics of the area, including number of existing broadband subscribers and current average phone bills.
  2. The availability of a CLEC to handle local termination.

Interestingly enough item 'a' conflicts in some ways with item 'b'. If there is a lot of competition in an area driving down prices then the likelihood exists that an existing CLEC relationship exists in that market.

I think that 'b' probably has more influence on the decision. If Vonage already has procedures in place to deal with a CLEC, and has even developed an automated interface to that CLEC, then they are much more likely to expand there business into areas served by that CLEC.

Once that hurdle is overcome Vonage probably looks at an area in terms of the number of requests it has gotten for that area code, the number of calls to and from that area that it handles, the number of potential subscribers in the area, those with active broadband connections as well as those eligible to get them, the competition in that area from other low cost providers, and the technical sophistication of the users in terms of things like NetFlix rentals or eBay transactions.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: I am a bit new to VOIP... Reply with quote Back to top

What is a clec? There is no competition. The only "competition" comes from Midcontinent which is on the same pipe. There are only 687,000 people living in the entire state. Vonage serves one city. It is the largest city in SD, Sioux Falls....The others are very small towns which are suburbs of Sioux Falls, with the exception of New Castle, a town with a population of about 3,000 people, which Vonaqe for some reason, thinks is in South Dakota. Actually it is in Eastern Wyoming.

Rapid City, the city which I live close too, is the second largest city in South Dakota (68,000) and lies on the Western border. It would be called a town in Illlinois....the state from which I originally hail....Barrington is the name of the town I was born in....also I've lived on Cornelia and Seminary streets, up in Rogers Park and on South Port Ave. in Chicago. I'm quite familiar with the North Shore, I lived and worked there. Anyway back to Rapid City....It has the largest SAC (Strategic Air Command) base in the world, two universities a symphony orchestra etc. etc. Mount Rushmore is 20 miles away. It's pretty sad that Vonage doesn't serve us.

Oh, by the way, Fibercom was/is not a Sun Java host. It was/is a regular internet, cable television and telephone phone sevice provider....not video....It was founded in 96, so I stand by my remark. It was the first provider of its sort in the country. Fibercom was a division of Black Hills Corporation http://www.blackhillscorp.com/ a company which trades on the New York Stock Exchange under bkh. Also linked here http://www.blackhillscorp.com/brief.htm It is not some mom and pop outfit, in spite of were it's headquarters are located.

Anyway could you please explain what a clec is? I'd sure appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:44 pm    Post subject: Anyone?? Reply with quote Back to top

What is a CLEC?

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