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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:17 pm    Post subject: What happened to the RTP300?!? Reply with quote Back to top

Hi there,

I'm looking to upgrade my Vonage hardware and my 'perfect' Vonage device would have the following:

*Router/firewall
*2 phone ports
*No wireless
*4 ethernet ports
*Slim form factor

In other words, the RTP300! But here's the weird thing. This device seems to have dropped off the map. It's not offered by Vonage, you can't buy it in stores, and even a Froogle search turns up nothing!

My understanding is that the RTP300 replaced the bigger, bulkier RT31P2 wired router (which only has 3 ethernet ports, by the way). Yet I can still walk into a Best Buy or Staples and buy an RT31P2!

What's the deal? Was the RTP300 horribly unreliable or something? Why has it been 'erased' from existence?? I need to find out if there was something really wrong with it, before I bid on a used one on eBay.

Does anyone know where I could find one? An army surplus store, anywhere, I don't care.........
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

If you bid on a used one on eBay, you won't be able to use it. Vonage doesn't allow "reuse" of their adapters.

You could do a WRTP54G, and just turn off the wireless. It's the same device, with wireless.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

NateHoy wrote:
If you bid on a used one on eBay, you won't be able to use it. Vonage doesn't allow "reuse" of their adapters.

You could do a WRTP54G, and just turn off the wireless. It's the same device, with wireless.


Thanks, thats very good to know. I'll make sure to only bid on unopened devices. Yes, I suppose I could just neuter a WRTP54G.

I'm just really curious as to why they End-Of-Lifed the wired version of the WRTP54G so quickly, yet kept around the older wired router (RT31P2).....
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

When they first took it off, a lot of us wondered the same thing. It's a darned fine box, and does a solid job. I have a WRTP54G, which is basically the same thing with an antenna. Most of the reports say the WRTP54G/RTP300 unies, while somewhat marginal routers, are the best Vonage devices you can get.

So, it's a bit of a mystery. Maybe the manufacturing cost on the RT31P2 was lower? Maybe they thought no one would really want a non-wireless router any more so they stopped manufacture? Dunno.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It's kinda weird, everytime I turn around Vonage has a different type of ATA. I wonder what the deal is. I have an old Moto VT1005 box myself but would have loved to get a Linksys ATA to go with my Linksys Cable Modem and Router. I was just waiting for the firmware to stabilize. Which brings up another point. How are they ever going to get stable firmware if they keep changing devices?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

strange_69 wrote:
It's kinda weird, everytime I turn around Vonage has a different type of ATA. I wonder what the deal is. I have an old Moto VT1005 box myself but would have loved to get a Linksys ATA to go with my Linksys Cable Modem and Router. I was just waiting for the firmware to stabilize. Which brings up another point. How are they ever going to get stable firmware if they keep changing devices?


Yeah, the RTP300 had the lifespan of a fruit fly. From what I can tell it came out in August of 2005. People were still buying them in December 2005, then they disappeared off the radar. My issue is - if you're going to EOL these devices, make sure you introduce a comparable replacement. In my mind there is not a comparable replacement to the RTP300.

The funny thing is that Vonage and Linksys still end up having all the expenses associated with supporting these devices (i.e. firmware updates, customer support, etc.). If you look at the Vonage support Web site, there is a long list of supported devices. But then look at the list of devices they currently offer, and there are only 3 or 4 devices on there. Wouldn't they want to offer a wide selection to customers, especially if they have to support these devices anyway? </rant>

Oh well, looks like a new unopened RTP300 is about $30 on eBay, so I can't complain.....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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strange_69 wrote:
It's kinda weird, everytime I turn around Vonage has a different type of ATA. I wonder what the deal is. I have an old Moto VT1005 box myself but would have loved to get a Linksys ATA to go with my Linksys Cable Modem and Router. I was just waiting for the firmware to stabilize. Which brings up another point. How are they ever going to get stable firmware if they keep changing devices?


Yeah, the RTP300 had the lifespan of a fruit fly. From what I can tell it came out in August of 2005. People were still buying them in December 2005, then they disappeared off the radar. My issue is - if you're going to EOL these devices, make sure you introduce a comparable replacement. In my mind there is not a comparable replacement to the RTP300.

The funny thing is that Vonage and Linksys still end up having all the expenses associated with supporting these devices (i.e. firmware updates, customer support, etc.). If you look at the Vonage support Web site, there is a long list of supported devices. But then look at the list of devices they currently offer, and there are only 3 or 4 devices on there. Wouldn't they want to offer a wide selection to customers, especially if they have to support these devices anyway? </rant>

Oh well, looks like a new unopened RTP300 is about $30 on eBay, so I can't complain.....


Quick followup - I bought an unopened RTP300 on eBay for $30 and I'm loving it. Sound quality is MUCH better than the RTP31P2 that I originally picked up at Staples (why is this model still for sale?). The form factor is sweet, and it has 4 ports versus the 3 on the RTP31P2. Linksys/Vonage are crazy for EOLing this box and keeping the bulky, ugly RTP31P2 on the market......
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

just and FYI my RTP300 has died and Vonage is sending me a Motorola VT2442 as a replacement. It has 4 Ethernet ports, 2 RJ-11 and a built in firewall.

I got fine performance from my RTP300 so lets hope this one performs just as good.
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warwickweb wrote:
strange_69 wrote:
It's kinda weird, everytime I turn around Vonage has a different type of ATA. I wonder what the deal is. I have an old Moto VT1005 box myself but would have loved to get a Linksys ATA to go with my Linksys Cable Modem and Router. I was just waiting for the firmware to stabilize. Which brings up another point. How are they ever going to get stable firmware if they keep changing devices?


Yeah, the RTP300 had the lifespan of a fruit fly. From what I can tell it came out in August of 2005. People were still buying them in December 2005, then they disappeared off the radar. My issue is - if you're going to EOL these devices, make sure you introduce a comparable replacement. In my mind there is not a comparable replacement to the RTP300.

The funny thing is that Vonage and Linksys still end up having all the expenses associated with supporting these devices (i.e. firmware updates, customer support, etc.). If you look at the Vonage support Web site, there is a long list of supported devices. But then look at the list of devices they currently offer, and there are only 3 or 4 devices on there. Wouldn't they want to offer a wide selection to customers, especially if they have to support these devices anyway? </rant>

Oh well, looks like a new unopened RTP300 is about $30 on eBay, so I can't complain.....


Actually my experience was the opposite. I went through multiple RT31P2's and my RTP300 was ROCK SOLID. About every three months under heavy usage my RT31P2 would just die...

And by the way, my friend is a doctorate based on fruit fly research and hated your comment... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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warwickweb wrote:
strange_69 wrote:
It's kinda weird, everytime I turn around Vonage has a different type of ATA. I wonder what the deal is. I have an old Moto VT1005 box myself but would have loved to get a Linksys ATA to go with my Linksys Cable Modem and Router. I was just waiting for the firmware to stabilize. Which brings up another point. How are they ever going to get stable firmware if they keep changing devices?


Yeah, the RTP300 had the lifespan of a fruit fly. From what I can tell it came out in August of 2005. People were still buying them in December 2005, then they disappeared off the radar. My issue is - if you're going to EOL these devices, make sure you introduce a comparable replacement. In my mind there is not a comparable replacement to the RTP300.

The funny thing is that Vonage and Linksys still end up having all the expenses associated with supporting these devices (i.e. firmware updates, customer support, etc.). If you look at the Vonage support Web site, there is a long list of supported devices. But then look at the list of devices they currently offer, and there are only 3 or 4 devices on there. Wouldn't they want to offer a wide selection to customers, especially if they have to support these devices anyway? </rant>

Oh well, looks like a new unopened RTP300 is about $30 on eBay, so I can't complain.....


Actually my experience was the opposite. I went through multiple RT31P2's and my RTP300 was ROCK SOLID. About every three months under heavy usage my RT31P2 would just die...

And by the way, my friend is a doctorate based on fruit fly research and hated your comment... Very Happy


I think you misunderstood me - I'm saying that it was only available for a short period, not that it's unreliable. I just bought an RTP300 and love it. Unlik ethe RT31P2, which **** in comparison. Which is why I find it strange that you can still buy the RT31P2 but not the RTP300.

Tell your friend I meant no offense to fruit flies. Wonderful little creatures. However, there's no arguing that they don't live long Smile
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