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Vonage to buy back shares for those not willing to pay.
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gfoulks
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Joined: Jan 18, 2004
Posts: 243
Posted:
Wed May 31, 2006 2:53 pm
Post subject:
My point is being proven right now!
look at the price. I kind feel locked into this stock because I want to wait an see what happens yet I'm afraid that if I sell and they end up doing something will I be able to get my money back after the sale?
I really need
Vonage
to make an announcement as to what their intentions are so that I can figure out what I should do with this stock.
eboller
New Forum Member
Joined: May 22, 2006
Posts: 4
Posted:
Wed May 31, 2006 3:42 pm
Post subject:
You mean if
Vonage
does pay back those who bought? Don't see why selling should preclude you from getting payment back if they rescind. There'll be records of you owning the stock in a given period.
WillyD
Vonage Forum Associate
Joined: Oct 18, 2005
Posts: 13
Posted:
Wed May 31, 2006 3:48 pm
Post subject: What's vonage's liability except for a bunch of funny money?
Vonage
was selling approximately 30 million shares, of which up to 13.5% (or about 4 million shares) was reserved for the Directed Share Program. And another 1.5% (about 400,000 shares) may have been bought by insiders (i.e. Tom Ridge's 2,500 shares that he purchased for $17 each).
4 million X $17 is $68 million (which would be the most that
Vonage
stands to lose, not counting any potential legal action), but it is money
Vonage
didn't have at all before the public offering. And the wording is clearly in the prospectus that VG wouldn't leave the underwriters holding the bag if their customers welched on their agreement to purchase shares.
I would assume that VG should get paid for about 29 million shares (assuming that 25% of people welch which I think will be higher than actual) and raise about 29M X $17 = $493 Million. If the stock offering had been priced at $16, VG would have brought in about 30M X $16 = $480 Million. So I'd say
Vonage
is not going to come out too badly unless there is additional fallout (i.e. lawsuits). Their stock price dropping shouldn't affect the company if they have the much-needed capital to work with.
And these welchers were given at most 50% of the amount they requested (if they made a confirmed bid for 200 shares and "lost" in the lottery -- i.e. they got 100 shares).
bountyhunt
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Joined: May 20, 2006
Posts: 2
Posted:
Wed May 31, 2006 6:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Looks like Vonage will cover the bankers
rudedog40 wrote:
http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7BD869CB0C%2D6114%2D42E0%2DAD71%2D87FD4AC9B5BE%7D&siteid=yhoo&dateid=38868%2E6268832176%2D876017704
On Wednesday reiterated language in its initial public offering prospectus about paying back underwriters for any unsold IPO shares ordered by its customers. The company said it has "agreed to indemnify the underwriters against certain liabilities, including those that may be caused by the failure of Directed Share Program participants to pay for and accept delivery of the common stock which had been allocated to them."
So
Vonage
will back the underwriters for the losers who decided they were just 'pretending' to buy
Vonage
stock at the pre-IPO price. I have a relative who works for the Texas Attorney General's office. He's spoken to several of his superiors on this topic. All of them agreed that if
Vonage
were to come to them to assist in prosecuting any individual who refused to honor their committment to purchase their allocated shares, they'd take the case in a heartbeat.
Vonage
may be letting the underwriters off the hook, but that doesn't mean they won't sue you welcher's who think you got ripped off because they priced the stock too high. That's not how the game is played. So keep stopping the payment on those checks. That alone is a felony offense. It's called a 'hot check'. The AG office can prosecute you for that, regardless if
Vonage
lets you off the hook. By the way. As soon as
Vonage
made this announcement, the stock tanked even more. As of 2:45 CST, it's down another 3% to $12.12. Looks like the real investors are totally PO'ed and are dumping their stock to show their disapproval of Vonage's wimpy attitude in handling this situation.
For those that couldnt sell when they wanted, had shares stuffed into their DSP account after being told they had none and anyone else involved in this fiasco...How about not sending a check in the first place ...let them come after you. Sounds like a civil matter now. F the investment bankers they dont care about you and neither does Citron.
syrap
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Joined: May 23, 2006
Posts: 5
Posted:
Wed May 31, 2006 7:23 pm
Post subject: offical vonage response
i just got this email from
Vonage
We would like to clarify certain aspects of our Customer Directed Share Program (Customer DSP). Pursuant to the terms and conditions of our Customer DSP, we agreed to sell to you, through our underwriters, and you agreed to purchase, the number of allocated shares set forth in your Customer DSP account at
www.vonageipo.com.
To be clear, we have not offered and are not offering to repurchase any of our shares of common stock from our customers.
For further information on our Customer DSP, including our obligations to our underwriters to cover certain of their losses, please see our prospectus, which can be found by clicking here or by visiting
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1272830/000104746906007592/a2170744z424b4.htm.
Sincerely,
Vonage
Investor Relations
dconnor
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Joined: Mar 05, 2003
Posts: 2252
Location: The Beach
Posted:
Wed May 31, 2006 7:41 pm
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In light of
Vonage
having published an official email which dis-claims the topic title in this thread, I believe it is best to continue this conversation here:
Considering not paying for your shares - read this first
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