My neighbor has unsecured wifi, Can I get vonage to work?

Posts: 164 · Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:01 am Post subject:

my $.02

It is not right to use someone elses WiFi account to run your vonage line on or otherwise something on all the time.

At some point your enighbor MAY realize what is going on - cant you see it now - he takes a look at his network and sees an internal ip or computer he doesnt recognize

"Why are there two ips connected when we only have one laptop?" and line goes off-line OR more likely

You are on the vonage line taking or making a very important call when either 1) power goes off - 2) He reboots 3) something else that makes his wireless router go off-line either temporarily or permanently.

Moral (hmm do morals count here) is that this connection is not guaranteed to be there. Just something to think about.

Posts: 8 · New Forum Member Joined: Oct 09, 2005 Posts: 8

blakadher wrote:

Jackrizzo wrote:

is it possible?
i know that my computers can get on his network fine, but how am i supppossed to run my vonage off it since I have to have an ethernet port to plug the phone adapter into.
i've heard of using a router to bridge it....is that just a rumor, and if not, is it hard to do? if this is possible i may not even need to get DSL, i hate dsl, just to get dsl i have to get a land line through the phone co too. And than they add all that bull$ hit extra fees and huge $50+ installation/activation fee. just ridiculous.

Does the term "Theft of Service" mean anything to you?

if the wifi is not firewalled or protected, then it's not theft of service. that's the LAW!

Posts: 24 · Vonage Forum Associate Joined: Mar 23, 2005 Posts: 24

blakadher wrote:

if the wifi is not firewalled or protected, then it's not theft of service. that's the LAW!

You are so dead wrong. Using your neighbors WIFI without their consent is theft of service and punishable by law. If your neighbor gives you permission to use his wifi he is breaking him terms of service with his ISP and may lose his service.

If you decide to setup a wireless connection for anonymous use and your ISP is OK with this service, such as FON that is legal.

Posts: 476

Yamboo29 wrote:

blakadher wrote:

Jackrizzo wrote:

is it possible?
i know that my computers can get on his network fine, but how am i supppossed to run my vonage off it since I have to have an ethernet port to plug the phone adapter into.
i've heard of using a router to bridge it....is that just a rumor, and if not, is it hard to do? if this is possible i may not even need to get DSL, i hate dsl, just to get dsl i have to get a land line through the phone co too. And than they add all that bull$ hit extra fees and huge $50+ installation/activation fee. just ridiculous.

Does the term "Theft of Service" mean anything to you?

if the wifi is not firewalled or protected, then it's not theft of service. that's the LAW!

Do you have a cite for this law?

Posts: 8 · New Forum Member Joined: Oct 09, 2005 Posts: 8

blakadher wrote:

Yamboo29 wrote:

blakadher wrote:

Jackrizzo wrote:

is it possible?
i know that my computers can get on his network fine, but how am i supppossed to run my vonage off it since I have to have an ethernet port to plug the phone adapter into.
i've heard of using a router to bridge it....is that just a rumor, and if not, is it hard to do? if this is possible i may not even need to get DSL, i hate dsl, just to get dsl i have to get a land line through the phone co too. And than they add all that bull$ hit extra fees and huge $50+ installation/activation fee. just ridiculous.

Does the term "Theft of Service" mean anything to you?

if the wifi is not firewalled or protected, then it's not theft of service. that's the LAW!

Do you have a cite for this law?

Look it up. If a network doesn't require authorization then how can there be unauthorized access? what are the cops gonna arrerst you for?

Posts: 476

Yamboo29 wrote:

blakadher wrote:

Yamboo29 wrote:

blakadher wrote:

Jackrizzo wrote:

is it possible?
i know that my computers can get on his network fine, but how am i supppossed to run my vonage off it since I have to have an ethernet port to plug the phone adapter into.
i've heard of using a router to bridge it....is that just a rumor, and if not, is it hard to do? if this is possible i may not even need to get DSL, i hate dsl, just to get dsl i have to get a land line through the phone co too. And than they add all that bull$ hit extra fees and huge $50+ installation/activation fee. just ridiculous.

Does the term "Theft of Service" mean anything to you?

if the wifi is not firewalled or protected, then it's not theft of service. that's the LAW!

Do you have a cite for this law?

Look it up. If a network doesn't require authorization then how can there be unauthorized access? what are the cops gonna arrerst you for?

Yeah, I tried to look it up, but I couldn't find anywhere that said if a network was unsecured then it was automatically free for use by all. In fact, it seems that most ISPs have specific language in their agreements that prohibit the use of the network they provide outside of the single residence where service has been installed. They call it (maybe you can guess) "Theft of Service". However, you seem to know much more about these laws than I do so, enlighten me, point me to the link that supports your statement that an unsecured network is open for access by anyone with a WiFi adapter.

Posts: 10 · Vonage Forum Associate Joined: May 08, 2006 Posts: 10

lor wrote:

I know it will cost you more money but why don't you buy one of the new Vonage hand held mobile phones! It will connect to any unsecured wireless network it finds. (as far as I know!)
Chris

i haven't heard about these, do u have link about them?
and how much do these phones cost?

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Yamboo29 wrote:

blakadher wrote:

Yamboo29 wrote:

blakadher wrote:

Jackrizzo wrote:

is it possible?
i know that my computers can get on his network fine, but how am i supppossed to run my vonage off it since I have to have an ethernet port to plug the phone adapter into.
i've heard of using a router to bridge it....is that just a rumor, and if not, is it hard to do? if this is possible i may not even need to get DSL, i hate dsl, just to get dsl i have to get a land line through the phone co too. And than they add all that bull$ hit extra fees and huge $50+ installation/activation fee. just ridiculous.

Does the term "Theft of Service" mean anything to you?

if the wifi is not firewalled or protected, then it's not theft of service. that's the LAW!

Do you have a cite for this law?

Look it up. If a network doesn't require authorization then how can there be unauthorized access? what are the cops gonna arrerst you for?

Actually, yes they can..and WILL:

See this article:

Man Arrested for Accessing Wi-Fi Network
Florida man is charged with a felony after allegedly using someone else's home Wi-Fi network.
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,121747,00.asp