Vonage voicemail advertising? Grr.

Posts: 492 · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:29 pm Post subject:

I received a Vonage Newsletter in the mail today. It came complete with subtle little ads and suggestions to look at the latest Video commercials, as if we hadn't seen them before. I haven't been getting Voicemail or E-mail spam yet, but this may be a beginning. I'm already a customer, what more do they want of me besides bugging my friends and neighbors to sign up.

Posts: 482 · Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:11 am Post subject:

You got a Vonage newsletter in the mail and you're upset about that? Do you know how much junk mail I got from BellSouth and their affiliates? Wow, a newsletter...I feel your pain.

Posts: 98 · Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:46 am Post subject:

Believe what you want timus. No one will be able to convince you of anything you don't want to hear. If you think Vonage is "spamers" then they are "spamers" (sic). Then too are Microsoft, the makers of Viagra, Cialis, along with any other item or service being hawked by third-party vendors. Whether or not the actual makers of the product have any knowledge of the "spamer"(sic) is irrelevant, following your line of reasoning, and we should condemn them all anyway.

Posts: 11 · Vonage Forum Associate Joined: Mar 27, 2005 Posts: 11

Medic,

I have not received one spam from MS..Yes I do receive spams from cheap viagra, etc. companies like vonage..

If you know that much, then just let me know how can I get rid of this spams..emailing Vonage abuse ? Did not work ?
I already passed this issue to spamcop..I hope they will take some actions soon...

I just received one more email from Vonage with that big picture as you all know and the following text....

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With Vonage Broadband Phone Service, you?ll be using your high-speed Internet connection to save on all your local and long distance calls.

You?ll also get great international rates and many free features including voicemail, caller ID, 3-way calling and call forwarding. With Vonage you can choose your area code and keep your phone number wherever you go. You can also get advanced features like a second line, virtual numbers or toll free numbers.

Just sign up and we?ll send you everything you need. You?ll be up and running with broadband phone service in less than 5 minutes.

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Forward this mail to a friend:
Friend's emails:

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A D V E R T I S E M E N T

This e-offer was sent to you as a permission-based subscriber of:

Mesa Media, 405 S. Dale Mabry Hwy., #336
Tampa, FL 33609
We will bring you valuable e-offers on the products and services that interest you most.
If you do not wish to receive future e-offers, please Visit Us Here to change your preferences.

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Medic63 wrote:

Believe what you want timus. No one will be able to convince you of anything you don't want to hear. If you think Vonage is "spamers" then they are "spamers" (sic). Then too are Microsoft, the makers of Viagra, Cialis, along with any other item or service being hawked by third-party vendors. Whether or not the actual makers of the product have any knowledge of the "spamer"(sic) is irrelevant, following your line of reasoning, and we should condemn them all anyway.

Posts: 40 · Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject:

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I have not received one spam from MS..Yes I do receive spams from cheap viagra, etc. companies like vonage..

I get emails all the time asking if I want to buy microsoft products, cheap. That is no different from the email you are getting to sign up for Vonage. Neither of them are from the company's products mentioned in the email yet you seem to think Vonage is and others aren't.

Those drug emails aren't from the drug makers, the microsoft product emails aren't from microsoft, and the Vonage emails you are getting aren't from Vonage. Nor are any of the sponsored by the company in question. Its called spam, thats the way it works. One would think that you would understand that, but it sounds like you have some kind of thing against Vonage and don't want to see past the haze.

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If you know that much, then just let me know how can I get rid of this spams..emailing Vonage abuse ? Did not work ?

Because its not from, paid for, sponsored by, or generated by Vonage.

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I already passed this issue to spamcop..I hope they will take some actions soon...

Besides laugh and tell you the exact same thing everyone else here is telling you?

Posts: 14 · Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:41 pm Post subject:

Granted I'm new here, but reading through all the "spam" you're getting "from" Vonage, I am seeing a pattern. each one ends with "Mesa Media, 405 S. Dale Mabry Hwy., #336 " can't you just setup an email filter to dump those in the trash before they hit your inbox? I have my a bunch of my web email accounts (and my office Notes) email filters setup to catch keywords and dump them right away. Ever thought about giving that a try?

With the viagra one's they always seem to come up with a funky way of typing "viagra" (ya know, with spaces and alternate characters, etc.), but it doesn't look like they're doing anything with "Mesa Media". That'd be a good keyword filter to try.

But then again, I'm a newbie.. what do I know

Posts: 73 · Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:09 pm Post subject:

Vonage does not send out spam. I've been with Vonage since 2002 and I've NEVER received ANY spam messages from them. Just because the e-mail is trying to get you to sign up for Vonage service doesn't mean it came from Vonage, that Vonage endorses the company that's sending the e-mails, or that Vonage has sold your e-mail address. Anyone who has their own domain can make an e-mail address of vonage@<insert domain name here>. That doesn't mean that Vonage approved it or even knows about it. I have my own domain and I have a Vonage@ account setup. The only thing I use it for is e-mails to and from Vonage. I don't spam anyone with it, and I've never e-mailed anyone from that account except for Vonage. I think Vonage has better things to do and more things to worry about than trying to go after/sue one company that's sending out spam e-mails that are trying to get people to sign up for Vonage. If Microsoft or the drug companies went after every single spammer that sends out e-mails about their products they'd never get anything else done. Mesa Media is the one spamming you, NOT Vonage. Vonage has absolutely nothing to do with it...and I VERY seriously doubt that Mesa Media got your e-mail address from Vonage. They probably got it from the same place that all the other spammers got your address from.

Posts: 37 · Vonage Forum Junior Joined: Mar 10, 2005 Posts: 37

I just got a brain fart.

Lets say I wanted valid email addresses of "muches". I would spam the crap out of everyone with an offer of Free Vontage for 6 months. Just compleat this form.

Posts: 11 · Vonage Forum Associate Joined: Mar 27, 2005 Posts: 11

You know the truth...
All those MS products coming from spam are Warez illegal software does not have any relationship with MS..
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Furthermore The links do not finally end up on MS's website or a real distributors website unlike Vonage.....

Yeah right...You do not have any affiliation with Mesa Media..

why do not Vonage take some action agains them ?

Here is the company from a spam I just received 10 min agao..

A D V E R T I S E M E N T

This e-offer was sent to you as a permission-based subscriber of:

Mesa Media, 405 S. Dale Mabry Hwy., #336
Tampa, FL 33609
We will bring you valuable e-offers on the products and services that interest you most.
If you do not wish to receive future e-offers, please Visit Us Here to change your preferences.

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MrMike wrote:

Quote:

I have not received one spam from MS..Yes I do receive spams from cheap viagra, etc. companies like vonage..

I get emails all the time asking if I want to buy microsoft products, cheap. That is no different from the email you are getting to sign up for Vonage. Neither of them are from the company's products mentioned in the email yet you seem to think Vonage is and others aren't.

Those drug emails aren't from the drug makers, the microsoft product emails aren't from microsoft, and the Vonage emails you are getting aren't from Vonage. Nor are any of the sponsored by the company in question. Its called spam, thats the way it works. One would think that you would understand that, but it sounds like you have some kind of thing against Vonage and don't want to see past the haze.

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If you know that much, then just let me know how can I get rid of this spams..emailing Vonage abuse ? Did not work ?

Because its not from, paid for, sponsored by, or generated by Vonage.

Quote:

I already passed this issue to spamcop..I hope they will take some actions soon...

Besides laugh and tell you the exact same thing everyone else here is telling you?

Posts: 11 · Vonage Forum Associate Joined: Mar 27, 2005 Posts: 11

Thank you for your advice. Yes I can do that..
Why do not we eliminate this spamer and its affiliates instead of configuring each machine or mail server?

Thanks

GrandAmGuru wrote:

Granted I'm new here, but reading through all the "spam" you're getting "from" Vonage, I am seeing a pattern. each one ends with "Mesa Media, 405 S. Dale Mabry Hwy., #336 " can't you just setup an email filter to dump those in the trash before they hit your inbox? I have my a bunch of my web email accounts (and my office Notes) email filters setup to catch keywords and dump them right away. Ever thought about giving that a try?

With the viagra one's they always seem to come up with a funky way of typing "viagra" (ya know, with spaces and alternate characters, etc.), but it doesn't look like they're doing anything with "Mesa Media". That'd be a good keyword filter to try.

But then again, I'm a newbie.. what do I know