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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:38 pm    Post subject: Dark Telus DSL Reply with quote Back to top

Hey,
I was just wondering if anyone here has dark adsl from telus, I mean telus high speed internet without the normal land line phone.

I was wondering what the price was for this feature?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

There are some threads at dslreports.com

I believe that the extra fee is waived if you have a mobility account with a contract. Otherwise, I've heard of $15, but honestly I do not know.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: Re: Dark Telus DSL Reply with quote Back to top

troymc8 wrote:
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I was just wondering if anyone here has dark adsl from telus, I mean telus high speed internet without the normal land line phone.

I was wondering what the price was for this feature?

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Telus charges an extra fee if you want a DSL line, without a phone number, from Telus. They charge ~$50/month for "dark" DSL. Their standard DSL is $31.95 when bundled with a landline.

Yes, they will waive the premium if you do not have a Telus landline, as long as you have a Telus Mobility cell phone... you just have to ask them for it as they don't volunteer that information.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The CRTC recently ruled that the incumbent telcos, including Bell and Telus, had to reduce the "band fees" that they charge for "dark" or "dry" DSL. Your repair person will call it an "unbundled local loop." Isn't telco jargon great?

Anyways, over here in Ontario I have dry DSL from TekSavvy, and the copper to my house is provided by Bell. Bell was charging $16.99/mo for the use of the wire. This is called the "band rate" and varies depending on your location and how much wire Bell has to take care of in order to provide you with a connection. Bell charges the ISP to lease the line, and the ISP passes the cost onto you. However two months ago the CRTC ruling came into effect and my band rate dropped to $10.22/mo.

In Ontario at least, you can see what the band rates are on this page:

http://www.teksavvy.com/resdrydsl.htm

(Not trying to plug my ISP here, it's just that they're the only people I've ever come across who know dry DSL intimately)
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Telus DOES have dark DSL, I am currently using a DSL subscriber with out a Telus landline. They charge a $15 "network charge" for this type of service. They will not "waive" this fee, but they will credit your account $15/month if you have a Telus Mobility phone, but you have to tell them you have a cell phone. They asked me when I initially set up my account if I had a Telus cell phone, but it may differ from rep to rep since the whole process is still fairly new.

On a sidenote, I do hope the CRTC steps in soon to prevent ALL ISP's in Canada from practising deceptive marketing - almost all companies are guilty of not disclosing what you actually will pay (insert big woot! for Vonage here). Telus will charge you I think 2.95/month extra if you're not on a Telus LD plan.
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