Need help with 2 Router Setup

Posts: 4 · New Forum Member Joined: Apr 25, 2006 Posts: 4

need help. I have a Netgear WGR614 wireless router (with my main PC, a second PC wireless connection, and A RepayTV unit wired. )

Vonage sent me a Linksys RT31P2 router. I now have my setup like this:
Cable modem->Linksys->Netgear->PCs

Here is my problem:
I do A LOT of torrent downloads. Before I put the Vonage Linksys in the setup, I was getting super fast download speeds. Now I am lucky if I get above 25 kB/s.

How can I get my Netgear wireless router (which has port forwarding set up for torrent downloads) to pass through the Linksys with no restrictions?

Also, when I test my BT client, I get a NAT error. This never used to happen when I had the setup: Modem --> Router --> Vonage & Computers. I had Choppy audio, so I rewired it to the "recommended" configuration. Now, I have problems with my BT client. Can anyone give me some insight into what configuration I need to use on both routers? I've enabled Port Forwarding on both. On the IP address of the computer that does the most BT....and on all 3 addresses of the Vonage router.

Posts: 2257 · Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:15 am Post subject:

Vonage routers do not do well with BitTorrent.

Put the Vonage router behind the NetGear, it does not need any ports forwarded, only open ports, and usually that will work as long as you have not specifically forwarded ports 10,000 - 20,000 to any other device on the network. It also needs open ports 69, 80, 123, and sometimes 5060 and 5061. There is NO need to forward anything.

Posts: 4 · New Forum Member Joined: Apr 25, 2006 Posts: 4

dumb question.....is Port TRIGGERING the same as opening Ports?

Posts: 2257 · Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject:

No, port triggering basically says "if the local computer opens port x to the Internet, forward a port to that computer."

"Open" just means the port is not manually forwarded to another computer, or blocked from being accessed.

Posts: 4 · New Forum Member Joined: Apr 25, 2006 Posts: 4

Ok then.....I have no idea how to "open" a port. I've forwarded ports, before....but never OPENED any.

Posts: 2257 · Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject:

Sorry, I'm not being clear.

By default, all ports on a router are "open", in that any client may connect out, and invite return connections, on any port they choose. On a regular router, you must take action to "close" ports, but there should be no specific action required to "open" one.

So in almost all cases, all you need to do is put the Vonage router behind another one, relegate it to a Vonage device only, configure QoS to give the Vonage device priority (if your router has QoS capability), and enjoy.

Posts: 4 · New Forum Member Joined: Apr 25, 2006 Posts: 4

THAT'S my issue. It's behind my Netgear router, wich does NOT have QoS. I am trying to find some way to ehnance the operation of my Vonage, however, I can't use the QoS. Is there anything I can do to enhance my Vonage Service?

I was thinking of purchasing the Linksys Vonage router. Would it be a good move, or not?

Posts: 2257 · Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:32 pm Post subject:

None of the Vonage routers can handle P2P/BitTorrent, and they aren't particularly good at QoS either. I'd stick with using anything Vonage supplies as a Vonage device only if you use P2P.

Personally, I use a WRT54GL, with aftermarket firmware, and it works very well for me using P2P and Vonage at the same time.