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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 1:25 pm    Post subject: Best Network Setup? Reply with quote Back to top

I'm a new Vonage customer trying to figure out the best place on my network to place my Voip router to maximize Voip quality while in use, and data traffic when not in use. My internet connection is 4Mbps down / 500Kbps up with 3 public IP's offered. (I actually get all of that bandwidth all the time too.. but I can easily use it up) All of my LAN connects to the net through a single PC based firewall/router/server running Linux which takes up one of those public IP's. So with this setup there's 3 places I could put the Voip router (Moto):

1. Between the cable modem and the Linux router. This offers the best possible service quality, since QOS would work, but it means my whole network is going through a NAT'd connection and I have to forward ports etc... to make all my services accessible to the outside world... a hassle I don't particularly want to deal with. (problem's with NAT'd connections etc..)

2. Behind my Linux box and on my switched LAN. Forwarding the ports to the Voip router is no problem to do. There's a lot more traffic on my LAN though and everything going out to the net has to go through a single collision domain (aka the server) meaning there could be slow downs as PC's compete for that. Setting up traffic shapping and QOS on the server is a possiblity but looking into it appears to a MAJOR project since nobody has created an easy to use tool for Linux yet.

3. Connecting my cable modem to a hub, then my Linux and Voip routers to that hub (both getting their own public IP's). That leaves me with one collision domain (the hub) which I'm under the impression will treat both's traffic as equals. This is how I have things currently setup and the limited amount I've used it appears to work great. (still waiting for my number to transfer)

So what do you guys think? I assume you guys have some experience with all these setups and can offer some advice as to what works best... I should also note that I'd like to sometimes send a fax or two (via fax modem) but that's rare.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Everyone has a different situation, I have my Moto box behind my Linux router sharing a switch on the LAN with no problems (ports are forwarded). I don't use the "PC" port on the moto at all, except now and then to snoop at the setup. I have great voice quality but I do have limits on Kazaa Lite to keep that traffic down.

Regarding QOS in Linux, have you seen this thread: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10233058~mode=flat

If your box uses htb it should work for you. Smoothwall doesn't so I can't try it.

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

My setup, Motorola SB4200 (modem) >Motorola VT1005 (aka Vonage Digital Phone Adaptor) > Linksys BEFSR41 (router) > port 2 PC, Port 3 PC, Port 4 Dlink DI-624 (wireless running in AP mode), Port 1=UpLink > generic 10/100 5 port switch > Port 2& 3 PC, Port 5 UpLink to Dlink DI-524 (wireless running in AP mode)

I just connected the Vonage Motorola VT1005 today. No problems, all PC are up and running, no problem with VPN, talked to coworkers all over the US with no problem, they did not realize I was using Voip. Did not change configuration on any of the routers, switches or AP.

I’m going to keep my fingers crossed, hope this works.
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have been using a firewall called m0n0wall that gives you great control using what it calls "Traffic Shaper". From my experience it will give you more control over bandwidth allocation than what QoS would give you. I replaced a Linksys BEFSR81 with m0n0wall and am very happy. You can get information at:

http://m0n0.ch/wall
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 6:59 pm    Post subject: That TC Reply with quote Back to top

Has anyone done any traffic shaping on Linux? I think I'm going to try the behind the router setup. I did see that tcstart script already... just that I'll need to modify it for vonage/my setup. tc is pretty cryptic.

Also from ethereal it appears Vonage has two servers:
Outgoing - 216.115.31.24
Incoming - 66.243.106.85

Anyone know of any other's I'd have to look for?
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Anyone tried this if it worked or not?

Cable Modem -> Linksys Wireless Router (WRT54GS) -> Wireless Adapter (WET11 - Wireless Ethernet Bridge) -> Vonage Box?

Will that work? I am search around for possible options Smile Ofcourse using linksys as example since i know that product somewhat
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 12:46 pm    Post subject: Re: That TC Reply with quote Back to top

Ditto wrote:
Has anyone done any traffic shaping on Linux?

See the dslreports thread: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10233058~mode=flat

As for the IPs that Vonage uses, I'd have to check my logs, but those numbers sound right. Note, though, that the SIP packet sent just before an incoming call contains the IP address that will carry the voice traffic. I'd bet that could point to just about any server and the ATA will grab it.

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Anyone tried this if it worked or not?

Cable Modem -> Linksys Wireless Router (WRT54GS) -> Wireless Adapter (WET11 - Wireless Ethernet Bridge) -> Vonage Box?

Will that work? I am search around for possible options Smile Ofcourse using linksys as example since i know that product somewhat

That ought to work, yes, but you might have to forward your ports. If so, can you assign a static IP to a device over that WiFi bridge? My router does so based on MAC addresses and I have no idea if those are preserved over a bridge.

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