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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:54 pm    Post subject: Home wiring Verizon nid tll box Reply with quote Back to top

Hi and thanks in advance for any help,

I would like all of my phone jacks in my house working with Vonage.

I have a Verizon NID TII box and will be using the Linksys WRTP54G phone adapter. See picture of NID box.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/justsendittomyemail/detail?.dir=/31a4&.dnm=9b10re2.jpg&.src=ph


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This site has lots of good info:
http://michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

mharvey wrote:
This site has lots of good info:
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LOL, That very same info can be found Here

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That is funny... I had bookmarked the link to MichiganTelephone but did not see that you had it here... I did not even think to look for the sticky topic before replying to the post. duh! I should have known that everything you need to know is here. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Home wiring Verizon TII NID box Reply with quote Back to top

I did look across the information in the http://michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html link.

The wiring in my NID appears to be a little more complicated than the samples. My NID box has 3 bridge modules, 2 modules appear to be wired, and each module have 2 groups of twisted wires (8 wires to each group). Module 1 has a group of blue wires & a group of white blue stripe wires. Module 2 has a group of orange wires & a group of white orange stripe wires.

See picture:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/justsendittomyemail/detail?.dir=/31a4&.dnm=9b10re2.jpg&.src=ph

Can someone look at this picture and tell me if I need to disconnect all the wires for both bridge modules. If so, then what to do with the open ends for these wires.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

If your wiring is standard, then module one is wired for line 1 on the blue/blue-white pairs and module 2 is wired for line 2 on the orange/orange-white pairs. You should only have to disconnect the POTS service from module 1, leaving all the blue/blue-white pairs connected together. I can't make out how to do that in your picture; I just can't see any detail.

Once you've done that, you should be able to plug your Vonage adapter into any jack, and line 1 will be active on all the other jacks. All this is predicated on your having standard wiring.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I don't know who did your phone wiring but it's a great example of what not to do. From what I can gather, your home builder decided to let all the phone jacks converge at this NIU. So instead of having a centralized location in your basement and only 1 wire coming out to this NIU, you have about 7-8 cat5 wires coming in.

I cannot see very well because the picture is taken so far away and the wires are blocked by the little door.

So what I cannot see is how the rest of the wires are connected to each other. It appears to me to only have 1 or 2 wires connected to each terminal.

Would it be possible to get a very good closeup of the terminals labeled 1 and 2? It appears that 3 is not connected at all.

Then take a picture will the door closed of all the wires and show me how they are connected to each other. We are most concerned about the blue/white with blue striped wire pair.

It also appears that you or the previous owner had 2 lines coming into the home is this correct?

Anyway, please post the new pictures and we'd be glad to help. Your original picture is a bit difficult to decipher because the wires are covered by the little plastic cover.

we'd be glad to help but we need to look at some more pictures.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

maybe some-one more knowledgeable can confirm this .... but if you plugged a phone into the rj 11 jack in the NID box shown in the picture - doesn't that dissconnect the house wiring... so you can trouble shoot your phone line with-out the house connected... if so then wouldn't simply inserting an rj 11 connector into the test jack shown in the picture accomplish breaking the house wiring from the phone co.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Verizon NID TII Box wiring - Photos requested by Mundy5 Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks to all for your responses. Here are the detailed photos user Mundy5 requested.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/justsendittomyemail/detail?.dir=/31a4&.dnm=15acre2.jpg&.src=ph

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/justsendittomyemail/detail?.dir=/31a4&.dnm=73abre2.jpg

I am the original owner of the house. House was built 3 years ago (2003). There is only 1 active phone throughout the whole house. And you are correct, module 3 has no wired connections.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I cannot speak on what a-dhold has suggested since I am not aware of that particular scenario.

a-dhold wrote:
maybe some-one more knowledgeable can confirm this .... but if you plugged a phone into the rj 11 jack in the NID box shown in the picture - doesn't that dissconnect the house wiring... so you can trouble shoot your phone line with-out the house connected... if so then wouldn't simply inserting an rj 11 connector into the test jack shown in the picture accomplish breaking the house wiring from the phone co.


However, I can tell by the 2nd picture that the phone company decided to connect all the blue wires together and all the white/blue striped wires together. To make life easy, all you have to do is remove the blue wires from the red terminal and make sure they are all connected and cover it with electrical tape. Likewise, remove the white/blue striped wires from the green terminal and make sure they are all still connected and then put electrical tape around it and secure it.

Then all you need to do is connect your Vonage device to a phone jack nearby and you are good to go.

Thanks for the close-up. It really helps me understand how it is all connected. I must say that I would have connected them all in a basement central junction box and have only 1 wire coming out to the unit but that's just me.

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