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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Does using VoIP use up your monthly download/upload limits? Reply with quote Back to top

Well the questions in the subject line. Just wondering if sitting on the phone will count toward my ISP's limit. And if so, how long on the phone would be a gig?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, it will unfortunately.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

yes it would. The reason why you have to have the internet is because data is sent and recieved there for it is using bandwidth.

It would be almost impossible to tell how long you could talk on the phone using a gig becase it will depend on what you have the bandwidth saver set to and also how much active packets are being sent. If you have not saying anything and there is silence on the phone no packets will be sent.

If you are that worried about your monthly bandwidth I would see about getting more per month. Most ISP's offer unlimited download/upload but limit the speed of that to around 3MB download and 256KB upload or somewhere around there. Check to make sure you aren't getting your limit confused with the speed instead of the monthly data limit.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

No, not confused. My service has a 100 GB/mos data transfer limit.


I know that is probably plenty but so was 10 gig 5 yrs ago. Would it be similar to other audio files/streams in the internet, say mp3 size?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Like I said before it would really be almost impossible to tell how much you will use because all calls will be different.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: Does using VoIP use up your monthly download/upload limi Reply with quote Back to top

mrbreeeeze wrote:
how long on the phone would be a gig?


Vonage has three quality settings, 30k, 50k, and 90k. I'll assume your transfer is up or down combined, so you would use approximately 60k, 100k, or 180k every second you are on the phone with Vonage.

Treating a GB as a simple billion bytes and 90k as a simple 90 thousand bytes, you are looking at approximately 90 minutes of talk time per gigabyte at the highest quality setting (1,000,000,000 bytes / 180,000 bytes per second = 5,555 seconds). Nearly double that time for the 50k setting, and about triple that for the 30k setting.

So, if your line was dedicated 100% to Vonage, I'd say you couldn't use more than 150 hours a month on the line, so keep it under 5 hours a day unless you lower your quality setting, OK? Wink

Note that Vonage does not use 100% of the bandwidth 100% of the call. So silences lower bandwidth, etc. But if you use the max numbers for estimation, you'll be better off.

Does your ISP allow you to see your usage so you can avoid overuse? If so, sign up for Vonage and make a LOT of calls for a few days, then see what happens to your bandwidth, and use the 30-day money back guarantee if it takes too much.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: Does using VoIP use up your monthly download/upload limi Reply with quote Back to top

mrbreeeeze wrote:
Well the questions in the subject line. Just wondering if sitting on the phone will count toward my ISP's limit. And if so, how long on the phone would be a gig?


Just curious, who is your ISP? I haven't heard of any US ISPs (wireline at least) selling measured bandwidth, although it is not uncommon in Europe for example.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

My cable internet provider has limits on upload and download bandwidth usage. The list the limits here. I think many if not all cable/dsl providers also have similar restrictions that may or may not be enforced.

I did hit the upload limit once and got a warning. I think they also capped my upload bandwidth to about 700kbps for a time too but it was still usable... just slowed down bittorrent. I did go a bit crazy that month.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thankfully, TWC doesn't have fixed limits. On the downside, there upload speeds are pretty stingy. I'd have a hard time staying within their caps, particularly on the upload limits - I drive that pretty hard.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ChrisFix wrote:
Thankfully, TWC doesn't have fixed limits. On the downside, there upload speeds are pretty stingy. I'd have a hard time staying within their caps, particularly on the upload limits - I drive that pretty hard.


Sorry - from TWC's web site:

6. Special Provisions Regarding HSD Service

(a) Tiers of Service. I acknowledge that the HSD Service is offered on a tiered basis and that each tier has "throughput" limits (i.e., limits on the maximum rate at which I may send and receive data at any time), "consumption" limits (i.e., limits on the amount of data that I may send or receive during the course of a month or over shorter periods) and other similar limits, all as set forth in the price list or the Terms of Use. I agree that TWC or ISP may change the throughput, consumption and other applicable limits of any tier(s) by amending the price list or Terms of Use. [...]


Nowhere in their site could I find the actual LIMITS, I expect they are probably laid out in your Terms of Use.

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