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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

taylor2767 wrote:
You would put the wireless router after your modem and then feed your phone adapter with one of the LAN ports from your router to your phone adapter.

If you have the PAP2 then you can not put this after the modem because it has no LAN ports to feed a wireless router.


I have the RTP300, which has 4 LAN ports and 2 phone ports. I currently feed this from my cable modem, then feed my WRT45G wireless router from the RTP300. As I understand it, you're suggesting that I'd do better by connecting the WRT45G directly to the modem, then feeding my two phone adapters (the RTP300 and an older Moto VT 1005V) from the WRT45G?

This is not what Vonage's legendary customer support advised, but that alone should have made me suspicious.

If I understand you correctly, I'll definitely give it a try. Thanks!

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- ISP: Optimum Online (Cablevision).
- Upload : 1.55 Mbps; Download: 12.3 Mbps
- Motorola cable modem: Surfboard SBV5120
- Wireless router: Linksys WRT54GS
- Vonage adapters: (1) LinkSys RTP300; (2) Motorola VT2442


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ekaim wrote:
taylor2767 wrote:
You would put the wireless router after your modem and then feed your phone adapter with one of the LAN ports from your router to your phone adapter.

If you have the PAP2 then you can not put this after the modem because it has no LAN ports to feed a wireless router.


I'm afraid I'm out of my depth here. Here's my current configuration:
- U.S. Robotics (3Com) cable modem CMX, Model 2940
- Vonage adapters: (1) LinkSys RPT300; (2) Motorola VT1005V
- Configuration: Modem --> RPT300
RPT300 Port 1 --> PC#1
RPT300 Port 2 --> LinkSys Wireless-G router
RPT300 Port 3 --> Vonage adapter 2 (Moto VT1005V)-->1st phone
RPT300 Port 4 --> PC#2
RPT300 Line 1:-->2nd phone (and fax)
RPT300 Line 2 [not used]

As I understand it, the LinkSys RPT300 is the same as the "PAP2" you refer to; but I do have it connected directly to my cable modem, and the RPT300 has 4 LAN ports, one of which feeds my LinkSys Wireless-G router (WRT54G).

Where did I lose you?



Ok. to cut down on some of your setup confusion.. What is the purpose of the wireless router?. Your set appears to have your two pc's hard wired to the RTP300 ports. If both pc's have wireless capabilities I would definitely use that.

Then you could daisy chain your two Phone adapters as such.

modem>>>>>WAn of wireless router>>>>> Wan of Phone 1>>>>>>>Wan of Phone 2. Fax line to whatever adapter is setup for.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

taylor2767 wrote:
ekaim wrote:
taylor2767 wrote:
You would put the wireless router after your modem and then feed your phone adapter with one of the LAN ports from your router to your phone adapter.

If you have the PAP2 then you can not put this after the modem because it has no LAN ports to feed a wireless router.


I'm afraid I'm out of my depth here. Here's my current configuration:
- U.S. Robotics (3Com) cable modem CMX, Model 2940
- Vonage adapters: (1) LinkSys RPT300; (2) Motorola VT1005V
- Configuration: Modem --> RPT300
RPT300 Port 1 --> PC#1
RPT300 Port 2 --> LinkSys Wireless-G router
RPT300 Port 3 --> Vonage adapter 2 (Moto VT1005V)-->1st phone
RPT300 Port 4 --> PC#2
RPT300 Line 1:-->2nd phone (and fax)
RPT300 Line 2 [not used]

As I understand it, the LinkSys RPT300 is the same as the "PAP2" you refer to; but I do have it connected directly to my cable modem, and the RPT300 has 4 LAN ports, one of which feeds my LinkSys Wireless-G router (WRT54G).

Where did I lose you?



Ok. to cut down on some of your setup confusion.. What is the purpose of the wireless router?. Your set appears to have your two pc's hard wired to the RTP300 ports. If both pc's have wireless capabilities I would definitely use that.

Then you could daisy chain your two Phone adapters as such.

modem>>>>>WAn of wireless router>>>>> Wan of Phone 1>>>>>>>Wan of Phone 2. Fax line to whatever adapter is setup for.


I resolved a little of my own confusion and edited my post, but looks like you beat me to it.

I do have my two PCs hard-wired to the RTP300, and might as well leave them hard-wired to SOME router, esp since they don't have wireless cards. The original intent of the wireless router was to enable laptop use anywhere in the house. But I can still have that if I cable my WRT45G directly to my cable modem and then connect everything else from the WRT45G -- Right?

I'll give that a try. Thanks again.

(Please let me know if I've misinterpreted you.)

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- ISP: Optimum Online (Cablevision).
- Upload : 1.55 Mbps; Download: 12.3 Mbps
- Motorola cable modem: Surfboard SBV5120
- Wireless router: Linksys WRT54GS
- Vonage adapters: (1) LinkSys RTP300; (2) Motorola VT2442
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Correct. That way the router will prioritize Voip traffic and hopefully cut down on dropped calls. You can then use 2 of the 4 LAN ports of the wireless router to feed your 2 phone adapters.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

taylor2767 wrote:
Correct. That way the router will prioritize Voip traffic and hopefully cut down on dropped calls. You can then use 2 of the 4 LAN ports of the wireless router to feed your 2 phone adapters.


I think I understand. Basically I'm just reversing the places of the RTP300 and the WRT54G in my system. Specifically, I'm (a) pulling the "inbound" modem cable from the RTP300 and connecting it to the WRT54G and (b) pulling the 4 "outbound" cables from the RTP300 and connecting them to the WRT54G -- so the WRT54G will be feeding my two PCs and also my two phone adapters. One of these phone adapters is of course the RTP300, so one RJ11 port on that adapter will still be used for that phone (and fax) line.

If that all sounds right, I'm set. If not, I'm sorry to be so thick, but please advise again.

And thanks again, in either case.

Ed

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- ISP: Optimum Online (Cablevision).
- Upload : 1.55 Mbps; Download: 12.3 Mbps
- Motorola cable modem: Surfboard SBV5120
- Wireless router: Linksys WRT54GS
- Vonage adapters: (1) LinkSys RTP300; (2) Motorola VT2442
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I still think this config would work the best.

modem>>>>WRT54G>>>>>RT300 (port 1 of 54G)>>>>VT1005(port 2 of 54G)>>>>PC#1(port3 of 54G)>>>PC#2(port4 of 54G).

The ports of the phone adatpers can be used if you need additional lan ports but with this config they are being used strictly has your phone adapters and not routers.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I might not have described it clearly, but that is pretty much what I had in mind. But now you've made it so clear even I will probably get it right.

Many thanks. I'll report back.

Ed

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- ISP: Optimum Online (Cablevision).
- Upload : 1.55 Mbps; Download: 12.3 Mbps
- Motorola cable modem: Surfboard SBV5120
- Wireless router: Linksys WRT54GS
- Vonage adapters: (1) LinkSys RTP300; (2) Motorola VT2442
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:48 pm    Post subject: It looks like what I had in mind Reply with quote Back to top

I think the thread has suggested things I had in mind.

You actually seem to have a similar setup as I did. I now have two Vonage adapters. Most recently the RTP300 as well as a Motorola 1005. It was the Motorola that never worked in front of my router. That is to say when I went from the modem --> VT1005 --> Linksys router, I had frequent problems. That was frustrating since that was the recommended Vonage setup.

Changing that to modem --> Router --> VT1005 has eliminated all traces of the hassle that seems to have plagued you as well.

Since I've added another line and since I have a lot of cross traffic on my network, I decided to try something else as I indicated earlier. I'm testing a run of Modem --> Switch --> Router A&B. Router A handles my Voip although I'm going to try using the RTP300 as that router and feed the VT1005 out of it down the road. Router B is my computer network computers and printers and has wireless functions. Time will tell if I ever had any idea as to what I thought I was doing. My though is that most of my network traffic will never even see the Voip traffic and conflict. (A fringe benefit is I can now swap a cable on a computer to one of the Voip boxes and should be able to use multiple computers for Starcraft on BNET.)

To address an earlier question. When I said "adapter" earlier, yes I was referring to the telephone adapters Vonage provides. It wasn't the correct terms, but I used it anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Not to worry about your terminology, it didn't leave me any more confused than I had started -- and your suggestions provoked more discussion, all of which I've found helpful.

My impression is that the terms "router" and "adapter" are sometimes interchangeable; it's the "sometimes" that causes the problem. I hope someone with a grain of technical knowledge (therefore more than I have) will correct me on this, but my guess is that a router can also serve as a phone adapter, whereas not all adapters can serve as routers -- that is, routers (as the name suggests) have more possible functions than adapters, which are limited to enabling phone lines.

Anyway, I've followed the advice offered by taylor2767 in his/her last message. Haven't had enough time under this config to report on its success yet, but I will after a few days (or earlier if it fails).

Regards,

Ed

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- ISP: Optimum Online (Cablevision).
- Upload : 1.55 Mbps; Download: 12.3 Mbps
- Motorola cable modem: Surfboard SBV5120
- Wireless router: Linksys WRT54GS
- Vonage adapters: (1) LinkSys RTP300; (2) Motorola VT2442
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: no problem Reply with quote Back to top

Glad I didn't add to the confusion. Sorry I didn't alleviate any of it.

For most of this forum, "adapter" and "router" are sometimes interchanged probably because most of the Vonage "adapters" function as a router.

We've given the slang "adapter" to basically all the Vonage boxes, although ATA and other terms are used as well. Specifically the adapter is what what gives us the phone as an interface.

Essentially "router" refers to a hardware device that directs and controls traffic between two networks. Both my (and your)Vonage "adapters" have built in router capabilities.

So if I haven't added more confusion, then I'm not trying hard enough.

But Taylor2767 has given the configuration that I'd like to see you try. Hopefully, the solution is that simple and successful.
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