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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:54 pm    Post subject: equipment compatability questions before signup Reply with quote Back to top

Hello,

I am getting ready to try Vonage. What I would like to do is get a 2 line box that can have totally separate phone numbers. I would like to get a brand new number to start and then port over my existing home number as another line. This would allow the kids to have their own phone number. My current network is an RCA DCM245R broadband modem and a Linksys BEFW11S4 Wireless B / 4 port ethernet router at Firmware revision 1.50.14.

I also will need an ethernet switch to do Vonage as my router is out of available ports, so I am going to get a Linksys 10/100 switch when I buy the equipment. I am also considering TIVO when the new line of Boxes is introduced and this will require another connection.

I have comcast. I generally run about 3500 / 3700 down and about 350 up.

My son has X box live and uses a wireless Microsoft Xbox adaptor to connect to the Linksys.

I would like to know the answers to the following questions.

Will a pap 2 be the best way to go?. It seems like it would be because it seems to handle two phone numbers and uses your existing equipment.

Can anyone tell me if the pap 2 will integrate and work with the equipment listed?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The PAP2 should work, but it does sound like you're a heavy duty internet user. You may run into problems getting everything to run at the speeds you want. If you buy the adapter from Vonage, the standard offering these days is an RTP300, which includes 2 phone ports and is a router with 4 LAN ports as well. This may work better than a switch for you if you free up one port on your main router for the RTP300 and plug computers that are not used for heavy traffic into it.

Before making your decision to go with Vonage, a test call (or two or three) at www.testyourvoip.com can give you an idea about how well Vonage will work with your internet service.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Steve48 wrote:
The PAP2 should work, but it does sound like you're a heavy duty internet user. You may run into problems getting everything to run at the speeds you want. If you buy the adapter from Vonage, the standard offering these days is an RTP300, which includes 2 phone ports and is a router with 4 LAN ports as well. This may work better than a switch for you if you free up one port on your main router for the RTP300 and plug computers that are not used for heavy traffic into it.

Before making your decision to go with Vonage, a test call (or two or three) at www.testyourvoip.com can give you an idea about how well Vonage will work with your internet service.



Thanks for the reply Steve. Just for clarification, are you saying get the rtp 300 and add a switch to it for infrequently used computers?


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No, I'm saying that with the RTP300 and the router function that it offers, you may not need a switch, depending on just how extensive your needs are. If all you need is simple internet connectivity for some computers, the RTP300 will occupy 1 port on your main router while providing 4 additional ports for those computers.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Steve48 wrote:
No, I'm saying that with the RTP300 and the router function that it offers, you may not need a switch, depending on just how extensive your needs are. If all you need is simple internet connectivity for some computers, the RTP300 will occupy 1 port on your main router while providing 4 additional ports for those computers.


Ok, I think I understand. However, honestly, I never heard of putting a router infront of another router until now. I truly dont understand how that would be helpful over just using a single router such as the RTP300 and a switch, unless your saying that the switch shares the bandwith and a router behind a router would not.

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"Ok, I think I understand. However, honestly, I never heard of putting a router infront of another router until now. I truly dont understand how that would be helpful over just using a single router such as the RTP300 and a switch, unless your saying that the switch shares the bandwith and a router behind a router would not."

Routers in front of routers are nothing new, in fact, it can have great benefits, such as QOS (Quality of service). QOS will prioritize the traffic coming from the Vonage device before your PC's, and Vonage device doesn't do this very well by itself. Also, by having another router, you are not depending on the Vonage device to control your WHOLE connection to the Internet.

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navydavy2001 wrote:
"Ok, I think I understand. However, honestly, I never heard of putting a router infront of another router until now. I truly dont understand how that would be helpful over just using a single router such as the RTP300 and a switch, unless your saying that the switch shares the bandwith and a router behind a router would not."

Routers in front of routers are nothing new, in fact, it can have great benefits, such as QOS (Quality of service). QOS will prioritize the traffic coming from the Vonage device before your PC's, and Vonage device doesn't do this very well by itself. Also, by having another router, you are not depending on the Vonage device to control your WHOLE connection to the Internet.


Awesome, well thanks. I did try that test you told be about and I am winding up between as good as a crappy phone call and as good as a decent phone call. of course, I have no benchmark
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

kevm wrote:
navydavy2001 wrote:
"Ok, I think I understand. However, honestly, I never heard of putting a router infront of another router until now. I truly dont understand how that would be helpful over just using a single router such as the RTP300 and a switch, unless your saying that the switch shares the bandwith and a router behind a router would not."

Routers in front of routers are nothing new, in fact, it can have great benefits, such as QOS (Quality of service). QOS will prioritize the traffic coming from the Vonage device before your PC's, and Vonage device doesn't do this very well by itself. Also, by having another router, you are not depending on the Vonage device to control your WHOLE connection to the Internet.


Awesome, well thanks. I did try that test you told be about and I am winding up between as good as a crappy phone call and as good as a decent phone call. of course, I have no benchmark



I am scoring about a 3.9 on average on test your Voip sometimes a couple points higher and sometimes a couple points lower
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: VOIP test Reply with quote Back to top

I score a 3.7 pretty consistently during the day. and have not had any Voip problem in a year plus. I believe that the score is low because I live in the middle of Oregon which is pretty much the middle of no-where as internet service goes. The whole area is connected to the Internet by one fiber optic string to Portland about 150 miles. When it gets dug up accidentally and broken as happens about twice a year the whole area goes dead. Telephones, television, credit card thingee's... Everything. It gets a lot of attention.

Still the point is that I have great phone connection at 3.7

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If you're going to get 2 #'s, then get them to ship you 2 adapters/routers... That way if one of them acts up, you can get them to temporarily put the # on the other router until they ship you another one.

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