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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: Hard wiring for apartment - Who you gonna call? Reply with quote Back to top

Hi,

I want to switch to Vonage, but because I'm anal I want to be able to run it through the jacks already existing in my house. I understand that I have to disconnect the outside line coming in to do this.

My question is, who do I need to talk to about having this done? I've not yet seen a box in my unit where the phone lines come in, I will search some more. Assuming the box is outside, do I need to talk to the phone company (Cox, I think, although Verizon is also available) or to my apartment complex? My worry is that Cox might be less than helpful when I tell them I want to be disconnected completely.

Sorry if this is a repeat question, but I hadn't seen it before. Thanks in advance for the help.

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I'd start by talking to the apartment managers. They should be able to at least re-direct your question if necessary.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I can help, and you don't have to go outside, hopefully.

Last night I was bored, and decided to check all of my wall jacks in my apartment for the elusive "incoming connection from outside." Sure as hell, I found it. Here's how. One of your jacks in your apartment, probably closest to ground level, and usually like a main line, not a bedroom, is where you find this. It might even be under a silver plated jack, like the one near my kitchen. There's two sets of wires there, and all you have to do is disconnect the ones that kill dial tone to all the jacks. Take a peek, and tell us what you find.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

HI,

I live in an apartment. My original phone line has been disconnected a long while ago. Now, I want to use the internal wiring of the apartment. I have checked the wall jacks. All I could find were these two pair of line (red-green and yellow-black). But could not figure out which ones are connected to outside. Also, since there is no active phone connection from outside the home, I cannot do the dialtone testing. Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Once again, I would suggest starting with the apartment manager. He/she may know how things are configured.

In general, the red-green pair is the one used first and the yellow-black is for a second line. If just one is connected to an outside landline, it should be the red-green. However, both may be- or neither for that matter.

One thing that you can do is to check for voltage on the line. Approximately 50 volts DC across a pair indicates that it's connected to the phone company, even if service isn't active. However, lack of any voltage would not indicate that you're good to go.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You can always trace (follow) the lines to see which one comes in to your apartment.

In a standard apartment wiring phone lines are normaly daisy chained.

The line enters the apartment terminates at the first jack and the continues to any other jacks within the apartment.
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Yes, but it's not always easy to determine where the chain goes next. The only jack that's readily identifiable is the last one in the chain, since it will only have one cable coming into it. You need to identify the first jack in the chain, and then determine which cable comes from outside and which goes to the second jack in the chain. Always possible; not always easy.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i work as a contractor and install Voip this is very common. most apartments are daisy chained but some do utilize home runs. either way there is always a jack where telco service comes into the apt and connects with the inside wiring, this jack will obviously have a minimum of 2 cables. you need to disconnect pair 1 which is either the red & green pair or blue & blue/white. pair 2 would be yellow & black and orange & orange/white
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