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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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UMP25 wrote:
Just out of curiosity, do any corded phones work with Vonage? In addition to my cordless setup, I have one corded phone that has this great answering system integrated with it--personalized voice greetings, a dozen mailboxes, etc. It's a digital system, meaning it's tapeless and all.

Can something like this operate with Vonage?


Well, I seem to have answered my own question. The corded phone I have is an old but very dependable and very well-liked Meridian 9516 made for Ameritech (Illinois Bell's successor and SBC's predecessor here in Illinois). It's got all these individual mailboxes and individualized greetings I've recorded for friends and relatives. It's so cool!

Well, because my numbers are officially being transferred from SBC to Vonage tomorrow, February 20th, I yanked this unit from its SBC line today and hooked it up to my Vonage adapter. Now, even though this particular phone has its own built-in answering machine--meaning I don't really need Vonage's own voice mail--I was testing out some Vonage voice mail stuff jut for the heck of it when suddenly I noticed the Meridian's red message light blinking.

So I'm saying to myself, "That's weird. No one called and left a message, so why is this red light blinking?" I go to the phone to see what the LCD screen says, because when a message is left on the answering machine, the screen reads "N new message," where "N" is the number of messages on the machine. Imagine my surprise when the screen instead read "message waiting -->".

It hit me that there were no messages on the answering machine itself; rather, there were messages in my Vonage voice mail! I thought, "how cool is that!" An old, corded, digital phone machine makes the message light blink when there's a voice mail message(s) on my Vonage line.

I found my phone's manual and read it, and sure enough, there it was in black and white, an explanation that if your phone service provided for its own voice mail setup, when a message was left, the red light would blink with a specific message that said, "message waiting -->".

Imagine a 15-year-old phone already compatible with Vonage of today. I feel so lucky I went right out and bought $20 of Mega Millions tickets for Tuesday's drawing (it's only a $170 million jackpot Lol ).

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

UMP25 wrote:

Well, I seem to have answered my own question. The corded phone I have is an old but very dependable and very well-liked Meridian 9516 ...


Yep, that is an awesome phone. I believe they stopped making them only a year or two ago. That's the same phone as the Nortel/Aastra/Meridian 9417CW but only has 1 phone line and the addition of the voice mail system. Very nice phone, still relatively easy to get ahold of refurbished ones. Do you have more than one of these? I've never used the Page feature with these, but am curious to hear how well it works. If you ever need it, you can find the manual here:
http://www.aastra.com/downloads/9516CWUG_E.pdf

The Aastra 9120 phone that I raved about earlier is of the same bloodline. Other than cosmetic differences, I can't tell any difference between this and the "Classic" series as far as quality, not sure if they've changed anything or just are charging more because everyone knows the older model #'s so well. Still worth it either way.

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Imagine a 15-year-old phone already compatible with Vonage of today. I feel so lucky I went right out and bought $20 of Mega Millions tickets for Tuesday's drawing (it's only a $170 million jackpot Lol ).


Yep, the Nortel phones were ahead of the times back when they were introduced. My Nortel PBX was one of the first "digital" PBXs back in a time when most of them were analog*. Even today, the Nortel/Aastra/Meridian single line phones are pretty much the best you can get when it comes to a regular-style single line telephone. Their newer models are VERY affordable compared to the older models. I believe my PBX phones were in the neighborhood of ~$400 or so each when we bought them. Congrats on getting (and keeping) one of the best phones out there. If you're looking for more of them (sans answering machine), the cheapest place on the 'net I've found so far is ProVantage. Many websites charge an extra 1.5x-2x more for these phones b/c of the name (Nortel/Aastra) on them.

*Analog PBXs/KSUs carry the voice as analog over two wires and the call progress/display/light/power signals over another pair of wires. Digital PBXs carry power/data/voice in digital form over 2-4 pairs depending on the system. The Nortel system was one of the first that could use just 2 wires for everything, which is a huge savings when retrofitting a building, being able to use the existing wires vs. having to pull new cable.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Mine actually does have two phone line capability, though I don't use that second line on this phone. My second line has always been for my dedicated fax machine.

Thanks for the manual link, but I still have the original manual. BTW, I did some searching and I did find a few new Nortel Meridian 9516's out there. Prices range from $99 to $169.00.

I don't need any, but I've mentioned this to my old man, because he's thinking of going to Vonage now that my brother got me on board.

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Really love the Panasonic 5.8Ghz KX-TG5422M. It has phonebook copying capabilities, a great speaker phone, choices of ring tones including caller specific tones, and a voice mail/caller id light on the antenna. The caller ID light is capable of a different color for a specific caller too. It was easy to store the "*123 VM access number as well as my password into the phone. There is also a way to, on a per call basis, boost the signal strength, although they warn battery life will be reduced.

This model came with a base station and one additional handset with charger, $109.00 at Bestbuy. There is a TG5423M that has a total of three phones too.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That exact model happens to be my main phone. I've got the base unit w/ handset and an additional handset for my second bedroom/office.

BTW, how did you get the Caller ID light to show different colors for different callers? I don't think I ever noticed that. Surprised

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

UMP25

Try this.....


Light-up ID
You can assign a different ringer indicator
color to each caller in the phonebook.
Select “Color1-Default” (Amber),
“Color2” (Green), “Color3” (Red), or
“Multicolor”.
1 Press {Phonebook}, then press
{Search}.
2 Press {V} or {^} repeatedly to display
the desired item.
3 Press {Option}.
4 Press {2} to select “Light-up ID”.
5 Press {V} or {^} repeatedly to select
the desired ringer indicator color.
LYou can also select the color by
pressing {1} to {4}.
6 Press {Save}, then press {OFF}.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks.

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Just thought I'd post something I stumbled across, rather unhappily, I might add.

The Aastra 9116 phones aren't anything like the 9120 phones. The basic functions are there, handset, speakerphone, display, etc, BUT, they've really neutered this phone compared to its 9120 brother.

The 9116 lacks:
1) a powered ringer -- just relies on a smaller one that is line powered and doesn't sound like the usual Aastra/Nortel business phone ringer. It's pretty loud, but nowhere near as loud as the 9120 on the loudest setting. This ringer also is controlled through a switch on the bottom of the phone and only has 3 loudness levels (off/low/high), quite inconvenient compared to the 9120 which lets you hit volume up/down on the keypad.

2) The display on the 9116 only has alphanumeric display on the top line, with the rest being digits. Functionally, this doesn't change things terribly much, BUT it doesn't look anywhere near as pretty. When you're dialling, the digits are the fixed small size on the 9116, whereas the 9120 shows them at 2x the height so you can see what you're dialing.

3) The 9116 lacks backlighting! The backlighting on the 9120 isn't rediculously bright, but it's definitely helpful. I can't believe they dropped this!

4) The LCD screen on the 9116 doesn't automatically compensate for temperature changes. While this isn't a huge thing, it just shows that they've really cut some corners on this phone compared to the 9120.

5) No live dialpad on the 9116. Forget being able to just reach over & dial, you'll have to either pick up the receiver or hit the speakerphone button before dialling. Okay, not a huge deal, but when you've used Nortel phones for 15+ years, you get VERY used to this feature.

6) No secure number dialling -- the 9120 (and higher Aastra phones) have a feature which allows you to have the phone NOT show credit card #'s, voicemail passwords,etc in the redial list and on-screen display. Yet another area where they cut costs.

7) No headset jack! This might not be a problem for many people, but I LIKE having a headset for when I'm on the phone for a long time. At least the 9120's do.
So, there's a reason for the $25 difference between the 9116 and 9120 besides the second line, an extra $20 worth spending in my book.

Sitting on the test bench this week are:

Panasonic KX-TSC11 - line powered phone, not bad, but I don't like the mushy keys and weak ringer. I do like the mute button and adjustable volume levels. CallerID works fine with Vonage. If it had a speakerphone, it'd be great. Not a bad "travel" phone for those road-warriors who are heavy phone users. Would seriously benefit from a longer handset cord, the one which comes with it is waaay too short for business use. I think I paid $12 for it at Staples awhile back.

Aastra M8009 - line powered phone, VERY good basic phone, albiet an expensive one, but the quality's there. I DO wish that it had a speakerphone for all of the time spent on hold with various companies anymore. It feels like I could drop this phone on the floor (okay, maybe throw it against a wall after dealing with Comcrap) many times before it'd ever have a problem. Bought a forklift palate of used ones for $5/phone. All in their original boxes, most in original plastic. Maybe 2 of them were actually used! The biggest downside to these phones are the lack of displays. If I was paying the $50 or so these sell for new, then I'd be a bit upset about the display, but at that point, i'd just spend the extra $15 and get a 9120.

Aastra 9116 - AC adaptor, 'though the basic phone functions work without AC power. Despite my trashing of it above, this really isn't a bad phone. Actually, it's quite good, just a bit short of "great". For the $10/phone I paid for these, I'm not complaining. Definitely an upgrade from what you can get at most retail stores.

Aastra 9120 - AC adaptor, 'though the basics work without AC power. This is the winner, by-far... Picked up a few of these new for $67, a few used for $15 each. Worth every penny, even at the new price....especially when you consider that the M9147 goes for ~$120-150 new and these are 99% the same phone with newer styling, different style headset jack (2.5mm vs. RJ-22) and it doesn't have the key beeps.

Yeah, I know, I have a bit of a phone fettish going on here. Smile Not really, just building a PBX for a business and am trying to do it on the cheap to get them going, but didn't want to sacrifice quality where it counts (the phones -- what the users actually see & use). They can always upgrade the switch later, but at least they won't have to upgrade the phones. When you get up to this size of a system (30 extension), the phones are where your costs usually are compared to the price of the phone switch.

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