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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: General Wiring Question Reply with quote Back to top

I fortunately have my home Vonage wiring working perfectly (for now), but have a new problem. My job is requiring that I accept a new Cisco Router and Avaya IP Phone to handle my business calls from home.

I need to place those devices in my den, which is directly above the patch panel in my basement where everything is pulled. Currently, I have 2 cat5e wires pulled to the den, 1 is for data, the other for voice.

I'm going to need another data connection in the den for the new Cisco box and it will be very challenging to put another wire through the existing hole in the plate for the other 2 cables (it's an exterior wall). I'm thinking I remember that 100baseT doesn't use all 4 pairs in the cable, so can I essentially split that cat5 voice cable? I'm thinking if I leave the 1 pair in place connected to the RJ11, but then pull 2 pair into a new RJ45 jack in the wall, then mirror that split in the patch panel, this might save me from putting a new hole in my brand new home. (Still has the new paint smell).

Any thoughts on this?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It may be technically feasible, but mixing data and audio doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: General Wiring Question Reply with quote Back to top

breaks911 wrote:
I'm thinking if I leave the 1 pair in place connected to the RJ11, but then pull 2 pair into a new RJ45 jack in the wall, then mirror that split in the patch panel, this might save me from putting a new hole in my brand new home. (Still has the new paint smell).

Any thoughts on this?

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I've done exactly this in my house as I only had one cat5 cable running to every room (used for phone) - a bit lame of the builder, but that was what was there. I'm using two pairs for ethernet throughout the house, and one pair for phone, with one pair spare. No problems at all running to 11 rooms. I have no interference on my LAN (speed tests all check out) and have never had any interference on the phones. The only caution I would give is be careful to ensure you don't mix up your wires and put phone voltage on your LAN.

This is not the purist way to go (or how I would have done it if I had the choice), but it does work without any issues.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:44 am    Post subject: Re: General Wiring Question Reply with quote Back to top

breaks911 wrote:
Currently, I have 2 cat5e wires pulled to the den, 1 is for data, the other for voice.

I'm going to need another data connection in the den for the new Cisco box and it will be very challenging to put another wire through the existing hole in the plate for the other 2 cables (it's an exterior wall).


why do you need 2 data runs?

can't you just put a switch on the one data cable and let it feed the 2 devices you need to send data to.

or if you need 2 separate data cables use the voice cable for the second data cable and just use an cordless phone base that supports multiple handsets then there is not need for a phone cable in that room
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

a-dhold has a good point regarding just putting an inexpensive 4 or 5 port switch to the one ethernet data cable you already have, which will allow you to share that cable with another 3 or 4 devices. A 5 port 10/100 switch can be had for $30 (or less)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002A9U7M/ref=nosim/104-5221828-6771105?n=172282
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You know what, I think you're absolutely correct. The switch would certainly solve the need. I feel rather lame for not having realized that. I guess I was trying to not add devices.

What threw me is the fact I need to have separation between my personal PC and the corp. router, phone, and laptop. I guess so long as I plug the Avaya Phone and my corp laptop directly into the Cisco router, which is plugged into the switch, which is plugged into the Vonage router, that traffic will all traverse the VPN. I'll just keep my PC attached directly to the switch. I just need to ensure my personal traffic doesn't hit the company VPN.

As for using the voice line, my fax machine is in this room and I can't part with it just yet...

My new problem is going to be power. This new deal will require 3 more power outlets in my overly packed den! I'm glad these devices are relatively low power!

Thanks for the assistance!
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