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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:39 pm    Post subject: Game plan for moving day.... Reply with quote Back to top

My wife and I are buying a house. It's 28 years old and needs an extreme wiring makeover. But that's another story.

So I want to get some feedback from you guys about my game plan for moving day. I have Vonage right now and plan on having the cable modem hooked up and running the first day were there.

I'm going to set up a structured wiring scheme in the house. Everything will go to the utility room were the wires come into the house. I will have the cable modem, router, and phone adapter mounted in there...along with phone, data, and cable distribution.

So here's the game plan:

Once I have all the components mounted on the wall, I was going to disconnect the phone companies line from outside. Go back in the house and cut their line. I'm going to connect the line that going to the rest of the house to one of my nine phone distribution port which is connected to the Vonage phone adapter. In theory I'm assuming this will make all the current jacks in the house usable with vonage...right?

As for the line going to the NID...I'm going to install a switch which will let me choose between Vonage and the phone company. This way if I ever want to sell the house, the new owner can choose to use the phone company again.

Eventually I'm going to run cat 5e wires for phone and data to each room along with RG6 cable to each room for tv. So all the wiring will eventually be replaced with newer stuff. But I wanted to be able to use the existing jacks while my brother-in-law and me re-wire the place.

Is my logic on this ok? Am I missing something big here?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That sounds like a good plan to me, and I like the switch idea alot! All you have to do if you ever sell is switch it over to phone company before you leave, and tell the next owner that your house is VoIP-ready, if desired.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It sounds to me that your switch just switches on and off the phone company since you plan on hooking your adapter to a distribution port. If this is correct then you take the chance that someone flips the switch and fries your adapter.

Switches are not typically used in this situation. You would be better served by something that allowed you to use Vonage and POTS simultaneously whether you have one on line 1 and the other on line 2 or you distribute it to different jacks.

One option would be to bring POTS and Vonage into your distribution cabinet and then patch the lines to your distribution block. I accomplished this by adding a wall jack at my distribution panel. The wall jack has a coax port for the cable modem, an RJ-11 port for the Vonage adapter and two RJ-45 ports from the router to the rest of the house. (The router, adapter and cable modem are all outside the box.)

Doing this allowed me to operate POTS and Vonage simultaneously with POTS on line 1 & 2 while my number ported. When my number ported I was able to easily swap Vonage to line 1. Additionally since all the lines are terminated inside the distribution box there is no way to accidentally connect POTS to my adapter.

But, if you do decide to use a switch you should really make sure it switches between POTS and Vonage.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i would leave the pots hooked up on the box outside and have it terminate with a surface mount jack (labeled pots) next to your Vonage device. so now you can go back to pots by unplugging the cable from the Vonage device and plugging it into the pots jack.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

scerruti wrote:
But, if you do decide to use a switch you should really make sure it switches between POTS and Vonage.


going on a little different angle on this topic..

from a theoretical standpoint:

if some-one wanted pots to be a back-up to Vonage outages.

could one put a relay on the home wiring and let the voltage on the Vonage line control weather Vonage or pots feeds the house wiring. they could make the number Vonage rings during outages be their pots #.

the only problem i see is that you would have to limit the voltage going to the relay to protect it from ringing voltage. (i can't remember right off hand how this would be accomplished at the component level, it's been a while since i last went to an electronics class)

is there such a device already out on the market to accomplish this? if so can you post a link.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I get you, how about this:

http://www.cpscom.com/gprod/flip.htm

BTW, alot of fun stuff on that page! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

thanks for the replies!

I forgot to mention that the phone adapter would be going to the switch as well, and then the switch would run to the phone distribution. I kind of got ahead of my self in the explanation. The NID would be connected again once the switch was installed.

I actually did have it set up when I still had my POTS line to distribute the POTS line as my line two so I could use both. But in our new place were only going to have Vonage, not even bothering calling the local phone company.

Right now I've got a switch...but I'm looking for something cool to mount it in. I want it to have some sort of cover you would have to flip up before switching....sort of to make you double think your actions.

Thanks for the advice and that website!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

So you want a switch guard cover like you see in those war movies on the "Big Missile" button. One they have to flip up before they blow up the world? What does your switch look like? A standard light switch?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

How about this:

http://www.action-electronics.com/switches.htm#Safety

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

navydavy2001 wrote:
So you want a switch guard cover like you see in those war movies on the "Big Missile" button. One they have to flip up before they blow up the world? What does your switch look like? A standard light switch?


It's a standard three way toggle switch. I choose the heavy duty type so it would take some force to switch it from one setting to another. This way it couldn't be tripped by accident. I haven't tested it with the phone systems yet, but I did a simple light rig to test it. I had two different power sources and one lightbulb to light. using different battery types I could tell when one was working or wasn't.

I really like that red cover! Now I just have to measure my toggle switch and see if it fits. If it does...i'm so there!

Thanks NavyDavy2001! (just out of curousity....are there NavyDavy2002 or 2003?)
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