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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Nothing would pleasure me more to see Vonage at a loss.


In addition to you being incorrect in just about every sentence above, might I suggest that you get a life?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Perhaps you should seek some venture capital and start your own Voip service. Do everything for yourself and your customers that, in your opinion, would in no way hurt Vonage to do.
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Everything they use is standard. Nothing is changed, nothing is modified. The Vonage PAP2 is automatically provisioned by Vonage according to the way the cisco admin guide tells them. The adapter is protected with passwords and provisioned with every way to prevent unlocking the device, do "user" firmware upgrades, change admin passwords, grabbing the key from the adapter to decrypt the configuration file on their TFTP, etc. They use nothing proprietary or special. They use T carriers to connect to the PTSN.


OK. Fair enough. Instead of modification they use lockdowns and heavy encryption. Works out to the same effect - to keep things simple (aka. to keep their target audience from screwing up the adapters) they lock them down.

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They got the price right, but other providers have decent prices to and allow me to manually provision. Nothing would pleasure me more to see Vonage at a loss.


I completely do not understand that point of view. If you don't like the way Vonage does business, then I can see not doing business with them. But first you talk of court cases, and now you say you'd take pleasure in their demise?

Well, I guess your question has been answered - Vonage does not allow manual provisioning because they have made a business decision to do so. The reason for that business decision is either security or simplicity or a combination of both, but regardless - since Vonage is a private company the reasoning behind their business decisions is none of our business, even as customers. They may disclose what they choose.

There's no law that says they have to sell you unlocked equipment or allow same to be used on their network. Vonage is not a regulated monopoly. They are a private competitive company. Their regulation is the free market - if their decisions end up being harmful ones, the market will punish them. 1,000,000 lines and growing say their decision is not an exceptionally bad one.

All their devices are locked to them, and you are welcome to purchase one and unlock it and use it with another SIP provider that welcomes unlocked devices, but it will not be useable on the Vonage network any more. Eventually, I may do that with my WRTP54G, but so far Vonage hasn't done too badly by me.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

emuman100 wrote:
They got the price right, but other providers have decent prices to and allow me to manually provision. Nothing would pleasure me more to see Vonage at a loss.


So what's the beef? If other providers have decent prices and their policies suit you better, why don't you just go to one of them and be done with it?

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