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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Chaining WRT54G (DD-WRT) and WRT54GP2 Reply with quote Back to top

I'd like to have this setup:

Cable Modem --- WRT54G (with DD-WRT v23) --- WRT54GP2 (Vonage)

(WRT54G LAN port is wired to WRT54GP2 WAN port)

where WRT54G has:
1. PCs (Wired and Wireless)
2. Ethernet-Print servers
3. NAS ("File Server")

and WRT54GP2 has:
1. PCs (Wired and Wireless)
2. Ethernet-Print servers
3. Vonage phone activated and working

(If you are wondering why I have it set up that way, it's because the WRT54G firmware options like DD-WRT are much nicer and have more power/control, and I would also like to be able to take the WRT54GP2 with me wherever for Vonage and yet still have my WRT54G LAN working/functioning for VNC/pcAnywhere from the outside)

Currently I have it configured this way:
WRT54G: Gateway, Dynamic IP from Modem, DHCP on, NAT on, Wireless on; Local IP is 192.168.1.1

What are the settings I need on the WRT54GP2 (as well as the WRT54G with DD-WRT v23) to be able to do the following:

PCs (wireless and wired) on WRT54GP2 to be able to see other PCs, the NAS, and print servers off of WRT54G
PCs (wireless and wired) on WRT54G to be able to see other PCs and print servers off of WRT54GP2
All PCs being able to surf the internet.
WRT54GP2 phone fully functional (with Vonage; hence I guess I need the WAN hooked up to the WRT54G LAN port)

I am currently having problems getting the PCs (wired or wireless) on the WRT54GP2 to be able to see the NAS and surf the Internet.

Thanks for any help!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

try turning off nat and dhcp on the wrt54gp2

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You can probably bridge between the two LANs by turning off NAT and DHCP as reebok has suggested.

The other possibility is to get a cheap hub or (preferably) switch and use it to put all of your devices on the WRT54G DD-WRT router. That would get you 100% onto one network with no bridging required, and remove all the load from the WRT54GP2.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I had the NAT and DHCP turned off on the WRT54GP2.

I tried it with its local IP being static at 192.168.1.2, as well as 192.168.2.1, and I still had problems (could not see the Internet, or see local LAN devices off of WRT54G from PCs connected to the WRT54GP2 via wired or wireless)

Any ideas? Any other settings I need to make sure of?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Chaining WRT54G (DD-WRT) and WRT54GP2 Reply with quote Back to top

takabanana wrote:
where WRT54G has:
1. PCs (Wired and Wireless)
2. Ethernet-Print servers
3. NAS ("File Server")

and WRT54GP2 has:
1. PCs (Wired and Wireless)
2. Ethernet-Print servers
3. Vonage phone activated and working


You're getting good advice from networking experts. As an aside, I'd just mention that two wireless routers with both trying to service wireless computers sounds like a recipe for trouble. Consider disabling wireless in the WRT54GP2.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

even with different SSIDs?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

takabanana wrote:
even with different SSIDs?


When you bridge your networks (if you manage to) you have to understand that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

So, why exactly do you have two WLAN's? Is it because one of them needs to be less secure? If so, then the LAST thing you want to do is bridge those networks together, because once someone is into the "insecure" WLAN, they're on your network.

If you really need two WLAN's, you want two LAN's.

Internet -> Router 1 (including insecure WLAN) -> Router 2 (including secure WLAN and *ALL* wired devices that need security).

If you are looking to have two WLAN's because you want to cover two separate areas, that's a different story, and a valid reason. A range extender or two properly designed routers in WDS would probably serve you better, but that's mo'money.

So, speak to us a tale of what you want your NETWORK to look like, not your ROUTERS. Do you WANT two wireless access points? Why? Do you WANT to have one cohesive network, or two? If one, then why are you (no offense) stuck on using two routers to do it?

I'm not saying you're trying to do something inherently wrong. I'm just trying to figure out what you ARE trying to do, so I can give you the best advice I know of on how. Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Note: There's another discussion trying to do something similar to what you are trying to do. There IS a solution...

http://www.vonage-forum.com/ftopic10250-20.html

See my post at the top of Page Three of that discussion for some possible configurations, depending on what you are really trying to accomplish.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Valid questions. Smile

I have 2 routers because:

1. Yes, they are on opposite sides of the house; and I'd like to have wireless on all parts of the house. I dont have many options on where to put the routers, so they are currently placed in the best way that I can think of right now.

2. Ideally, I want the WRT54G to be between my LAN and the Internet because of the power and flexibility that the DD-WRT software has over the "non-upgradable firmware" on the WRT54GP2. In addition, when I travel, I can bring the WRT54GP2 with me, and keep the LAN up and running by the WRT54G (I pcAnywhere and FTP to my LAN quite often).

So I need to be able to allow a PC (wired or wireless) on the WRT54GP2 to access the Internet and also a NAS and other computers and printers on the WRT54G... without losing my Vonage phone service coming from the WRT54GP2, and up through the WRT54G also.

Any help would be appreciated. Smile
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