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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: Fast Busy Reply with quote Back to top

I am getting outbound fast busy on numerous calls to numerous numbers. I did a test to Boston from testyourvoip.com and here is what I get:

MOS Analysis From You TO Boston
MOS analysis chart
Media Quality
MOS
3.9 / 5.0
(Best with G.711 is 4.4)


Degradation Sources
Codec 0.57 51.6%
Latency 0.06 5.7%
Packet Discards 0.47 42.6%
Packet Loss 0.00 0.0%
Codec G.711 (PCM at 64kbps,
20ms RTP payload,
80kbps IP BW)
Round-Trip
Latency 222 ms
Packet Discards 2.4%
Packet Loss 0.0%
Loss Periods
Min: 20 ms
Avg: 40 ms
Max: 100 ms
Burst Loss
Jitter
Min: 0 ms
Avg: 10 ms
Max: 93 ms
Signaling Quality
Post-Dial Delay 117 ms
Call Setup Time 153 ms
Media Delay 320 ms

MOS Analysis FROM Boston To You
MOS analysis chart
Media Quality
MOS
4.2 / 5.0
(Best with G.711 is 4.4)


Degradation Sources
Codec 0.57 76.7%
Latency 0.05 6.5%
Packet Discards 0.12 16.5%
Packet Loss 0.00 0.0%
Codec G.711 (PCM at 64kbps,
20ms RTP payload,
80kbps IP BW)
Round-Trip
Latency 222 ms
Packet Discards 0.9%
Packet Loss 0.0%
Loss Periods
Min: 40 ms
Avg: 40 ms
Max: 60 ms
Random Loss
Jitter
Min: 0 ms
Avg: 12 ms
Max: 91 ms
Signaling Quality
Post-Pickup Delay 159 ms
Call Setup Time 167 ms
Media Delay 192 ms

Also, I am hooked up this way:

Bellsouth DSL 1500/256 by Speed Touch Home
to
Linksys WRT54GS 4.0 with DD-WRT 2.3 12/25/05 QOS-enabled
to
PAP2

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You have a lot of packet discards. Do you get similar results if you eliminate the router and plug your computer directly into the modem?

What kind of phone are you using? A 2.4 GHz cordless phone will interfere with your wireless router.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:00 am    Post subject: Phone Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, I am using a 2.4gHz phone. I believe I have a 900mHz laying around here somewhere. Think it will interfere with the other 900mHz sitting on this same desk? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Typically fast busies meant the telco couldn't get a trunk line to complete your call. If the numbers you're dialing are not other Vonage/VoIP numbers, it has to go through their "media gateway" or whatever they call it to grab a physical dial line. If the call volumes are high and all the trunk/physical lines are tied up with other outbound (or inbound) PSTN calls, you'll get fast busies.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject: Any way to fix? Reply with quote Back to top

So is there anything I can do? This happens a lot and is very annoying. Is this typical of every Voip service? If not, I need to switch to someone other than Vonage.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Not much to you can do other than complain to Vonage.

I think they're having growing pains, not enough trunks, inadequate access links to the Internet, etc. I started with Vonage early last year and have noticed significantly worse call quality in December. It could be that a lot of new customers signed up over the holidays, or high Internet traffic volumes due to holiday shopping caused Global Crossing's backbone to be congested, or a whole host of other issues.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Any way to fix? Reply with quote Back to top

jcrew20 wrote:
So is there anything I can do? This happens a lot and is very annoying. Is this typical of every Voip service? If not, I need to switch to someone other than Vonage.


Before jumping to conclusions, get rid of that 2.4 GHz cordless and see how things work for a few days. Bradius may have fingered the problem perfectly, but you've got a known issue with that phone.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:50 am    Post subject: 10-4 Reply with quote Back to top

10-4. I'll do that and see how it goes. Go Dawgs! Smile Just kidding, but I did notice your Yellow Jacket avatar. I went to Tech my first year, but it wasn't for me in several facets. Thanks again, Steve.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

BRadius wrote:
Not much to you can do other than complain to Vonage.

I think they're having growing pains, not enough trunks, inadequate access links to the Internet, etc. I started with Vonage early last year and have noticed significantly worse call quality in December. It could be that a lot of new customers signed up over the holidays, or high Internet traffic volumes due to holiday shopping caused Global Crossing's backbone to be congested, or a whole host of other issues.



It's not the backbone ( at least not GX's ). Not going to go into how I can state this, but suffice to say it's true Cool Pretty much it looks like the problem is that Vonage does not have enough Sonus GSX9000 ports attached to the PSTN to carry the traffic. Basically looks like they are cheaping out.

As a pretty ticked off customer of Vonage, I would like to get a real answer from them on why the fast busy issue is constant for me and is not getting better.

To make a call at this time requires 5 to 10 attempts. The interesting thing is that some of the fast busy calls I make, the other end actually rang and they answered but had dead air.

Currently I am stuck in "follow the script" hell with Vonage in attempting to get the problem resolved (last step was they did some "change", but won't tell me what it was, and told me to reboot the device). At least it's through email instead of trying to talk to someone on the other side of the planet. The English is at least mostly readable.


RT31P2 router, doesn't matter whether cordless phone or not (wouldn't matter anyways since I use 802.11a wireless in the 5GHz spectrum via a dedicated access point and don't have any problems with microwaves or cordless phones). Router is plugged directly into the cable modem and problem is there regardless of other network connections.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

scca229 wrote:
It's not the backbone ( at least not GX's ). Not going to go into how I can state this...


Can I guess?

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